My Wife, My Ex-Wife, and ME!

Surviving a Relationship for the Long Haul

Amanda, Jamie, and Denny Featuring Brayden Broens

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Ever accidentally run over a garden gnome with a lawnmower while trying to impress your ex-wife and current wife? Denny kicks off this week’s episode of "My Wife, My Ex-Wife, and Me" with a hilarious personal story about just such a mishap. Joined by his wife Amanda and ex-wife Jams, the trio shares their witty and insightful take on the seven patterns couples therapists often observe, blending humor with real-life relationship wisdom. From technical glitches to Instagram revelations, they explore the tangled web of modern relationships peppered with laugh-out-loud anecdotes.

Fantasy Football enthusiasts, hold onto your hats because our TGC SOD Family Fantasy Football League is heating up! We recount the nail-biting matchups, including the Russiaville Enablers' narrow victory over the Berenstein Busted Biscuits. Amid playful jabs and competitive banter, we also dive into the unpredictability of parenting, spotlighting Piper's latest antics. Social media interactions are at an all-time high, and we ensure you’re part of the fun with updates across all platforms.

Relationships are complex, and we’re not shying away from the tough topics. From trust and communication to conflict resolution, this episode offers a comprehensive look at what makes relationships tick. Special guest appearances and spontaneous moments keep things lively as we tackle everything from staying true to oneself in a partnership to navigating infidelity and emotional confusion. Whether you're working through your own relationship hurdles or just looking for a good laugh, this episode promises a rollercoaster of emotions and plenty of food for thought. Don’t miss your chance to gain valuable insights and enjoy a good chuckle with us!

Speaker 1:

I'm Amanda, the wife, and I'm Jams the ex-wife.

Speaker 2:

And I'm Brayden, just the future.

Speaker 3:

Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Denny Broins. I'm the only man dumb enough to get his wife and ex-wife in a studio to do a podcast. And here it is my wife, my ex-wife and me.

Speaker 4:

That peace and happiness might be found there. You gave me hope, and now, now we have to say goodbye. Ouch, if there's any bitches in this room then there's something I gotta say.

Speaker 1:

Say for all the fools who fell for the first girl who comes their way.

Speaker 4:

I've been down that road and I'm back Sitting on square one Trying to pick myself up when I started from my Wife, my Ex-Wife and Me starts now.

Speaker 3:

Starts right now. Welcome to this week's edition of my Wife, my Ex-Wife and Me.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to need you to speed this up so Amanda can tell her story, because I need to know the rest of it.

Speaker 5:

It really wasn't that very exciting.

Speaker 3:

So welcome to this week's podcast, If you are listening. Sorry about last week.

Speaker 2:

We had technical difficulties. Kind of not sorry though.

Speaker 3:

It's a good thing we had Comcast or Xfinity, depending on how old you are. Come out to the house and they've got everything working again. In the, every Joke has a Little Truth studio, do they? We haven't fallen off yet, so that's a good sign. Tiktok hasn't called us 27 times we are on TikTok live right now, we're on Facebook live and we are on YouTube at YouTubecom. Forward slash at TGC SOD.

Speaker 1:

So can I get on the Wi-Fi then?

Speaker 3:

If you want to. If you want to, we pay for the most.

Speaker 4:

What's the word?

Speaker 3:

Interwebs.

Speaker 2:

That's right. So, speed.

Speaker 3:

My name is Denny Berlins. I appreciate you all being with us this week. We're back. This week, we're actually going to be talking about relationships.

Speaker 1:

My bad. Why don't you see if you can make some more noise? My bad.

Speaker 3:

I found our topic this week on Instagram. What do the kids call it? Instagram the gram. It's not Insta anymore.

Speaker 5:

Nope, it's the gram. It's been the gram for like the last three or four years.

Speaker 2:

I guess it does flippy flop.

Speaker 1:

Insta. Is it Insta? Is it IG Sweatshirt with no shirt.

Speaker 2:

IG yeah.

Speaker 5:

IG.

Speaker 2:

I've heard IG the gram insta, and then there's another thing called finstas. That's where whores post dirty pictures ah aka, I am living my life, thank you, um.

Speaker 3:

So this week on insta I found it it's right here it says couples therapist noticed seven patterns in couples. Who made it?

Speaker 5:

Now, honey, we've made it. So far, so good. Well, the jury's still out.

Speaker 3:

I don't think it's really like made it in the grand sense We've made it.

Speaker 2:

What constitutes it? The children that we? Oh Christ, yeah, I shouldn't have asked, we made those.

Speaker 3:

We did. You know how Boy do I?

Speaker 2:

Your goddamn fault Boy, do I? Huh? It is kind of your fault though.

Speaker 3:

It's not my fault, I don't carry around one of those?

Speaker 2:

No, you didn't go to your checkup. What?

Speaker 3:

do you mean I didn't go to my checkup To make?

Speaker 2:

sure your snippy, snip actually snipped?

Speaker 3:

No, he didn't to the first one there was no snip, that was just for Piper. Yeah, that came. That was much later. Eh about 15 months Well and then she was a little moody and she was like what if I'm pregnant? Oh Christ. I sent her a picture of stairs, that's all it was Was a picture looking down some stairs.

Speaker 5:

You said, hey, honey, come closer. I'm like, who did you send this to? And then it's a picture of stairs.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there will be no more babies in this house ever.

Speaker 2:

Good news, piper. Isabel, we love you, we do love you. You were just real surprising.

Speaker 3:

Hey, let's do some introductions. You want to To my left. Let me do a quick cough To my left. Would you like me to say that every time I cough?

Speaker 4:

ex-wife you ruined everything. You stupid bitch, stupid bitch. You ruined everything. You stupid, stupid bitch. You're just a lying little bitch who ruins things and wants the world to burn.

Speaker 2:

Bitch.

Speaker 4:

You're a stupid bitch. The dumbest bitch and lose some weight.

Speaker 3:

Say hello Jams.

Speaker 2:

Hello, Did you add yourself into it? The dumbest bitch. Is that what you did? I have a question.

Speaker 3:

Does Kayla beat you? No? Why do you have a question? Does Caleb beat you? No? Why do you have a bruise on your arm, on your other?

Speaker 1:

arm this one Right here.

Speaker 3:

Nope Other arm, it's red Torture watch band. See that right there.

Speaker 2:

Oh, is that Did he grab you.

Speaker 3:

That's a pretty ugly one. Right there Is that a thumbprint.

Speaker 1:

This, no, this, or was that when you were mowing yeah, so I have a.

Speaker 2:

This little dot right here. Yeah, let me tell you a story.

Speaker 1:

I have a bad boy mower where you stand up on it and like it's like a zero-turn mower with the things, but it's a professional lawnmower. Yeah, they're very touchy. Well, I had not known.

Speaker 3:

Did you throw yourself off of it? Please tell us more and don't leave anything out. Okay, Go slow.

Speaker 1:

So I didn't know that it was all the way down to the hair. I thought it was still at the tortoise and I hit the I think I don't want to hear any more of this story. And the only thing that All the way at the hair. The only thing that caught me was my arm on the other.

Speaker 2:

For a second. I was like wait, there's. How do you spell that? H-a-r-e. Okay, that was a great question. That was a great question.

Speaker 1:

So, I almost fell off my, I almost fell off the mower. And then there were times that I was doing like turning and man, that thing, that thing's fun as fuck.

Speaker 3:

Everyone will be happy to come back and listen to you talk about on your finner.

Speaker 5:

She also only mows part of her yard at a time. I want you to know.

Speaker 1:

It's so big.

Speaker 5:

What about your yard?

Speaker 1:

I get off at four o'clock.

Speaker 2:

Wait a second. Whoa, you didn't mow your entire yard the first time.

Speaker 1:

No, it got dark.

Speaker 2:

No, it didn't mow your entire yard the first time. No, it got dark.

Speaker 3:

No it didn't. You get off work at 4 o'clock. It does not take you four hours to mow that yard.

Speaker 2:

Not a chance, not half of it, not a chance, sorry, hey before anybody gets mad, let's continue with some introduction.

Speaker 3:

How about, before we do that, what was the week that was?

Speaker 1:

I got hungry.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so don't tell me it's because it got dark dark. You got your tummy got hers needed a snack.

Speaker 1:

No, I was really hungry. And what did you eat? We ended up going out to eat, to um okay, so you are your stories are vastly different. No, we didn't know where'd you asking Where'd you go? Burlington Boathouse oh my, is that any good? So you went to a special place, so you drove 30 minutes away, let's go to another town.

Speaker 5:

No, they're not that far from there.

Speaker 3:

It's actually closer. Probably there's a Pizza King over there. It would be easier for us to go there than into town. That's true, I guess.

Speaker 1:

It's true? I guess no it's actually very true.

Speaker 3:

It's very true. Hey, in between stepmom number two and stepmom number three, how do you feel about your mother? It's young Brayden.

Speaker 1:

Hey, peckerhead, maybe you should try a bit harder, because you've got shit for our brains.

Speaker 4:

I've been in this life life. You won't get much smarter because you've got shit for our brains say hello, young brayden, hello.

Speaker 3:

I like your choice. Can you show the people your shirt, your choice of? His bird evening wear His bird has a heartbeat. Look at that he's wearing a jacket.

Speaker 1:

He wears his heart on his sleeve. The bird wears his heart on his sleeve.

Speaker 2:

I got a couple bald spots on my chest here.

Speaker 1:

He's wearing a zip-up jacket. I did that.

Speaker 3:

With no shirt on underneath.

Speaker 1:

This is, you know what you need to put the wheel of punishment.

Speaker 2:

This is my time. You need to do this. I'm speaking.

Speaker 4:

One time.

Speaker 2:

I promise you one time do this. And when there's snow on the ground, this is the best, because you have a nice breeze.

Speaker 3:

So is there snow on the ground outside right now?

Speaker 1:

No, Is there a nice breeze? Is it close to?

Speaker 3:

snow.

Speaker 4:

Isn't it like 80 degrees outside Aren Isn't it like 80 degrees?

Speaker 3:

outside. Aren't you sweating when you?

Speaker 4:

wear that 97.

Speaker 1:

I'm comfortable, I'm very comfortable.

Speaker 3:

Can we?

Speaker 1:

add something to the wheel.

Speaker 3:

Well, it's too late to add it for this week, but we can add to it for next week.

Speaker 2:

What would you like to add?

Speaker 1:

I'm not telling you.

Speaker 2:

Why? Because I'm going to have to spin it.

Speaker 1:

Because it's not being added right now, so I don't want to tell anybody.

Speaker 3:

Do minute because it's not being added right now, so I don't want to tell anybody. Do you want to save it? That's right, how was the week that was for you, sir?

Speaker 2:

long long quite long. Yeah, I went to louisville every day. My head hurts, dude, I gotta tell you it's not that long of a drive, it's two, two and a half hours but doing it like doing it every goddamn day sucks, dude, like I would get in. It's usually like that drive is somewhat simple and like it's straight there. Go over a bridge, straight back. It's not a lot of turns, not a lot of anything crazy I like that.

Speaker 3:

It's straight there.

Speaker 5:

Go over a bridge, yep turn yep straight back how many times did you cross the bridge? Like the number of times jams and I crossed it.

Speaker 2:

God, no going there, one coming, god no Going there, one Coming back, two, that's it. No more bridges.

Speaker 1:

Oh, really that wasn't very fun.

Speaker 2:

It felt like it was just forever and I don't know why, Really. But I got new shoes on my Subaru Ascent. I went and got off four tires today. Oh okay, I'm almost officially an old man, you tell people to get off your lawn. I feel like I can feel it. I feel like I can feel the new tires.

Speaker 5:

You can feel the new tires, especially if they're as bald as the Tahoe tires are currently, when we put new ones on there.

Speaker 3:

I like my tires, like I like my women.

Speaker 5:

Bald in the middle.

Speaker 3:

As a matter of fact, you are dead on.

Speaker 5:

That's how those tires are.

Speaker 2:

But I'm super duper. I know this is going to come out Is that.

Speaker 3:

Okay, that would be weird.

Speaker 2:

You already played with her butt.

Speaker 3:

She did ask me to take my pants off today.

Speaker 1:

Her woo-woo. Don't tell me what I can and cannot do.

Speaker 2:

I know this is coming out Monday. I am so excited for tomorrow.

Speaker 3:

Well, there are people listening.

Speaker 2:

Oh shit, we are live. We have a game tomorrow.

Speaker 5:

Bright and early.

Speaker 2:

I'm bringing the pain.

Speaker 5:

So sad.

Speaker 2:

We need to bring the pain. I swear to Christ I'm bringing my own helmet.

Speaker 1:

What did Christ do? Why are you going to swear?

Speaker 2:

to him If he's all knowing and all doing. He did this shit to me. Well, let's introduce one more person To yourself the very medieval stepmother.

Speaker 5:

Why am I medieval Because?

Speaker 4:

look at you. You are already being mean to me. Welcome to the podcast by the way, if you're just joining us.

Speaker 3:

Thank you for tuning in, so this will actually be released on monday. What would that be? 21st, 23rd? Uh, september the 23rd this year is almost over. We're gonna blink and it's going to be christmas it's almost thanksgiving we're going to do a christmas podcast, like in two weeks it's going to be like yeah, well I canceled.

Speaker 2:

Here we go. Here we go, it's the same. God, nobody's getting a fucking Christmas. Here we go, it's the same Nobody's getting a present. I want you guys to know I love you guys. It's just not in the books.

Speaker 5:

It's not in the funds right now. Our present for jams will be we all come and spend a week and finish our house.

Speaker 3:

In between or. I don't even know what to say. Across from me is my beautiful wife that stirs the pot. What'd you call yourself, giant?

Speaker 2:

spoon.

Speaker 3:

I got my big spoon. It's my beautiful pot stirring wife Amanda.

Speaker 4:

Big spoon, but I don't even know what I need.

Speaker 5:

That keeps him to speak your truth and at the same time say I don't believe man.

Speaker 4:

Excuse me, while I get into my feelings for a second. Usually I keep it down, but today I gotta tell it Not that anybody gives a fuck anyway.

Speaker 5:

But everybody talking shit probably sucks anyway.

Speaker 2:

Y'all don't even know how.

Speaker 5:

I feel Y'all don't even know how I feel.

Speaker 4:

Today I really hate everybody, and that's just me being real.

Speaker 2:

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Bad bitches have bad days too. Friday, Saturday, Sunday Bounce back how bad bitch always do.

Speaker 4:

I don't really want to use it to be okay.

Speaker 3:

I love when we all do that. That was good. Say hello, amanda. Hi, how was your week? That was this week.

Speaker 5:

My week was very weeky.

Speaker 3:

You're snarling, just telling that part.

Speaker 5:

Let me tell you the last two weeks have been so rough. Why and I?

Speaker 1:

these kids are bad. Oh man, yeah, that sounds worse.

Speaker 5:

My kids, your kids, everybody's kids are bad. My kid.

Speaker 3:

Yes, well, your kid is kind of our kid Hers is bad.

Speaker 1:

Oh, the girls, oh, not my girls.

Speaker 2:

They're the worst.

Speaker 5:

Piper, you heard me say, piper stayed up all night last night.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Piper can be great and horrible both Within 30 seconds of each other.

Speaker 5:

It's every godforsaken time.

Speaker 2:

It is dude. I see her just bopping and booping and just having the prettiest little day and then she's like you know what I'm going to ruin someone's motherfucking life, right now I think I'm about to have mommy abuse me and then she's just like there it is. I mean, look, it happened.

Speaker 5:

All done, I'm going to do it again. All fixed Right back to what I was doing.

Speaker 3:

All fixed. Hey, if you are messaging us, it might take us a second to see. I'm just going to throw that out there. Nope, nope, okay, good, so we're on all kinds of different platforms right now Facebook Live, youtubecom, forward slash at TGC SOD. You can see all of our videos there, by the way, all of them and TikTok Live. We figured it out, we were not recorded this week saying very inappropriate things.

Speaker 2:

It's okay. Oh, I also. I got my ears lowered, Not yet. This is the highlight of my week.

Speaker 5:

You should have had him work on that, Chester.

Speaker 1:

Speaking of the highlight. That's my job, but he never comes to me anymore. He gets his fucking eyebrows done by somebody else.

Speaker 3:

He's cheating on you.

Speaker 2:

Look, I'm trying to get you. I'm fucking tired of it. Just so you know, little Miss need to get your house done. I'm trying to get you a business venture, so say sorry. I'm trying to get you a studio, say sorry. Speaking of sorry, I don't.

Speaker 3:

It is time for the first PGC SOD Family Fantasy Football League update of this season.

Speaker 5:

What's the matter? Do you have to yell to be heard over the music?

Speaker 3:

Nope, not at all, not even one little bit. But and I say but, I'll turn it down for you. But this is a big week, it's our first week. First of all, it was a mediocre week. Things that don't change, but stay the same. What's the matter? You hot my face is a little red Wearing a goddamn sweatshirt in the Everett Joe Castle studio.

Speaker 3:

Whenever you're ready, throw it my way All right, here we go with this week's TGC SOD Family Fantasy Football League update. Brayden Broins has your update for this week. Amanda's going to help. Let's take it away, young man.

Speaker 2:

With the first matchup of this godforsaken league, it is the Rooserville Enablers against the Berenstead Busted Biscuits.

Speaker 3:

Who is the Rooserville Enablers that would be you and who are the Busted Biscuits?

Speaker 5:

That would be myself.

Speaker 3:

Not the Busted.

Speaker 5:

Biscuit but.

Speaker 3:

She's got a Busted Biscuit.

Speaker 2:

So it pains me to do this it does Don't be pained. Well, I am. It was 106.12 for the Roosville Enablers.

Speaker 3:

That's my team.

Speaker 2:

Right, and then it was 104.14 for the Biscuits of the Busted Kind. That's your team, that would be my team. So I won. Yeah, you did so. Quite the nail condom.

Speaker 3:

That's your team, that would be my team. So I won. Yeah, you did so. Quite the nail biter. That was close At different times. We were both winning that.

Speaker 2:

I had you smoked. At one point it told me yeah, I know. And then I woke up and I was like, oh no, yep, dad won again. So let me give you a couple highlights. Know, your leading goddamn scorer? Yeah, uh, I don't know how to say his name, but he's the houston texans kicker.

Speaker 3:

he got you 20 points you should send him a letter, wasn't that grand?

Speaker 2:

matthew stafford got me a whopping 6.64 um.

Speaker 1:

That's my quarterback so, uh, yeah, that's, uh, that's how many did amanda's quarterback. It's oh, hold on, because it's that's how many did Amanda's quarterback. It's all, hold on because it's that's a tough beat for me.

Speaker 2:

So to start off the season, you, you, you, took this one Pop. We shall meet again. We shall meet again With the second matchup. What was your score? 104.14.

Speaker 3:

OK, more to come on that yeah, more to come.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, more to come on that yeah, more to come yeah With the second matchup, Jambalamba against Ams City Squaws. Did you come up with that?

Speaker 5:

I did.

Speaker 3:

Did you and?

Speaker 2:

Braxton have a little brainstorm. I've never seen her look at me like that.

Speaker 5:

She said do you like that name? She was smiling ear to ear Because you were going to pronounce it like it was silly and then you didn't realize what it was.

Speaker 2:

She was so mad. I think that if we are spinning, it's a toss up between me and her and I.

Speaker 3:

She got beat by 50.

Speaker 1:

She got beat by 50?

Speaker 5:

To be fair, you got beat by more than that because you had still less than me All right.

Speaker 2:

So Jamba Lambamba had 160.22 points. Holy shit, jamie, I had 106. The Squaws had 109.56. That's a tough. She would have still beat both of us. Dude, that is a.

Speaker 3:

I think we had the two lowest scores. We 100% did. That is a tough beat.

Speaker 2:

So for Jamba Lamba, demonte Adams seems to be your top contributor with 26 points, and the Squaws come in at 19 points with CeeDee Lamb.

Speaker 5:

So that's rough, except for the dude on my bench that scored 44 points.

Speaker 2:

Alvin Kamara four total touchdowns. Amanda said ah, I don't believe in him, Bench, I just don't believe in him.

Speaker 5:

I just don't believe in him.

Speaker 2:

Oh no, I'm playing him this week.

Speaker 5:

See, he's going to get nothing.

Speaker 3:

Not a thing, that's how fantasy football works.

Speaker 2:

You're going to get dick for him right now, and you know the craziest thing she couldn't tell us what Jalen Hurts' number is, and she got 160 points 23.

Speaker 3:

Not true.

Speaker 1:

Quarter 160, points 23. Not true Quarterback number 23. I didn't know he was a quarterback.

Speaker 2:

Oh, god damn. So that brings us to kind of the matchup. Well, no, yours and I's were the matchup of the week, but B-Wee's Beast.

Speaker 5:

Except I don't know why it's Beast and not Beasts.

Speaker 2:

Me either. Maybe it's his thingy, it is what it is so. And Team M Bra. Maybe it's his thingy, it is what it is so. And Team M Braxton won. I put a lot of thought into that name. Yeah, b-wee's Beast 111.98. Almost 112. And then Team M 116.94. Braxton he has so many points on his bench.

Speaker 3:

Yeah Well, and he makes more trades and more pickups than anybody else.

Speaker 2:

He just wants action. Baby, give me something. He's just constant, something, something.

Speaker 3:

He got in trouble yesterday because all he was doing was staring at his fantasy football. He just comes home and stares at it and tries to come up with plays Like. Read the message that came out today.

Speaker 2:

I thank you. You need to read it. Oh, I can't. Braxton sent a message to his mother. Braxton says. Braxton to his mom says you scared that I have two defenses now, comma.

Speaker 5:

You're scared because I have two defenses, even his proper punctuation. I'm kind of proud this dude's like oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I got two defenses. I got shit locked down. Now.

Speaker 3:

Guess what.

Speaker 1:

Nobody else can have two defenses, getting double defenses.

Speaker 3:

He is delusional. What did his mother respond? I was very supportive.

Speaker 2:

No, dickhead, you can only play one. So his top contributor, justin Jefferson, 23.3 points and Autry, her top contributor was 22.9, but she had a much more balanced team.

Speaker 5:

So right now, I gotta tell you I went and made him play Justin Jefferson. He wasn't going to play him.

Speaker 3:

I would like to draw everyone's attention to the oh what a colorful wheel.

Speaker 2:

As we stand in the East, Team M is leading the charge at 1-0.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I would like to know how it worked out that you, braxton and Audrey make up one division. And the three of us make up the other. What's up?

Speaker 5:

Kamish First off, I have a lower score than both of them Still doesn't matter. Also random. I didn't pick it. Oh, I'm sure it was random.

Speaker 3:

I did I hit randomized order or whatever? I'm sure it was very random. Now, Brayden had how many points?

Speaker 2:

In the 104. In the West it is Jambalamba at 1-0. And Roosville Enablers at 1-0. And the Busted Biscuits at 0-1.

Speaker 3:

So here's the deal. Brayden has lost by the highest, or he had the lowest score of the week, so now we've decided that he must spin the wheel of punishment. I think I'm going to need to add, like a sound effect that's not it.

Speaker 5:

I don't know that sound effect.

Speaker 3:

This is supposed to have it, but I can't get it to work, so I'm not going to mess with it. So here it is. It's going to be the inaugural wheel of punishment there are. How fitting it's me. There are so many things on here, I think, without further ado, let's go the first spinning of the wheel of punishment. There's no sound. That was really good timing. Uh-oh, call your significant other and tell them they smell like crackers. Now hold on Hold on.

Speaker 2:

Well, hold on, I technically have to.

Speaker 1:

We have to call. You, don't have no.

Speaker 2:

I have a wife and a girlfriend.

Speaker 1:

First off, the wife is not significant in any way.

Speaker 2:

Look, I'm speaking strictly by law.

Speaker 5:

Go ahead Call her through the app.

Speaker 3:

Oh, no, we're calling through this.

Speaker 2:

What, whoa? Who are you calling?

Speaker 3:

We're calling Alexis. Okay, yeah, what you think I'm calling the other.

Speaker 5:

I was going to say that's what I said, calling through the app.

Speaker 3:

All right.

Speaker 2:

She's going to think I'm dead, you're calling her a yeah, that's what she's going to.

Speaker 3:

10.30 at night.

Speaker 2:

I got to tell her she smells like crackers.

Speaker 1:

White crackers.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like saltines. All right, Let me see I'm finding it.

Speaker 5:

So are you just saying that and then hanging up?

Speaker 3:

No, no, no. I think we'll see how it plays out and see if there's any like. All right, now you cannot tip her off as to what's happening. Okay, yeah, I have to make sure her phone number is still the same 461?.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

N's in six yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

He was like God, don't read it off. Whoa, All right, here we go. This is so much fun.

Speaker 2:

She's going to wake up and forget who she is.

Speaker 3:

Is she asleep right now?

Speaker 2:

Yes, oh, this makes it even better. She had a jumbo margarita at dinner.

Speaker 3:

Or Stephen Hello, hello Alexis, how are you?

Speaker 5:

I'm good. How are you?

Speaker 3:

Great, you are a guest on my Wife, my Ex-Wife and Me right now.

Speaker 1:

She hates us all right now. How was your margarita?

Speaker 5:

It was great.

Speaker 3:

What flavor was it? Strawberry? Strawberry On the rocks with sugar. Ooh, how many of those did you have?

Speaker 2:

One and a half.

Speaker 3:

One and a half. Did you allow Brayden to leave the house in a zip-up hoodie with no shirt on underneath it?

Speaker 5:

I don't know if I allowed it, but I did see it.

Speaker 3:

You saw it, that's's even worse. That's allowed, unfortunately maybe so for everybody. That's on. Here's the story. Now this is going to end quickly. Okay, brayden had the lowest score this week on fantasy football, so as the wheel of punishment, that's why we're calling you right now, and Brayden has something that he would like to say to you. He could not ad lib or say anything else.

Speaker 5:

No, okay.

Speaker 2:

You smell like crackers. I love you.

Speaker 3:

I said you can't ad lib.

Speaker 5:

Now you've blown it, now you have to spin again.

Speaker 1:

Spin again.

Speaker 3:

Alexis do you believe you smell like crackers. I'll accept it. You'll accept crackers. What would have been worse? What is something he could have said that would have been worse?

Speaker 5:

I mean anything that smelled worse than crackers. I guess I don't think crackers is too bad.

Speaker 2:

That's a great answer.

Speaker 1:

Alexis, are you going to the game tomorrow?

Speaker 5:

I am.

Speaker 1:

I will be there. Okay, I'll see you there.

Speaker 3:

Are you drunk right now, Alexis?

Speaker 1:

No, she was asleep. Nope, I was asleep, though you were.

Speaker 3:

Brayden said we're waking that bitch up and there's nothing she can do about it.

Speaker 2:

Alright, alright, go back and re-watch the live. I did not say that I love you and you're real pretty and she smells like crackers.

Speaker 3:

I'm just glad you do smell like crackers. I'm just glad you're not in jail again.

Speaker 2:

Ah, alright, go back to bed, see you. See you tomorrow, see you.

Speaker 3:

Okay, that was fun, that was funny, she played along quite nicely.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's the quickest and I hate it.

Speaker 3:

Well, that is quite the difference from your last trip around the sun.

Speaker 1:

Jesus, I could say that we was thinking the same thing, we was Speaking of relationships.

Speaker 4:

Jams, let's talk about yours, no.

Speaker 3:

We're not going's talk about yours. No, we're not going to talk about your relationship.

Speaker 2:

You're right, pop let's talk about your first one.

Speaker 3:

No, we're not talking about that one.

Speaker 5:

So couples? Therapists notice seven patterns in couples. Who made it? Is it a?

Speaker 3:

baby, or is it marriage? It's making a good relationship, I think.

Speaker 5:

I'd like to meet them Made a good run.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so what do you think is something, Jams, you would have to do to in fact, have a good relationship? What's a good trait of a good relationship? Boy, I didn't think we were going to need this.

Speaker 5:

Jim said nope, can't say that.

Speaker 1:

Nope, can't say that Can't say that either. Ambition in wanting your relationship to flourish.

Speaker 3:

Oh boy Spell flourish.

Speaker 1:

F-L-O-U-R-I-S-H.

Speaker 3:

Nice job that's going to get you one of those Flower-ish Brayden. What is something that you would say would be a trait of a good relationship? Genuine happiness. Okay, Don't you think? I think that's the outcome of a good relationship. That's the outcome of a good relationship.

Speaker 2:

Genuine happiness.

Speaker 3:

Okay. I think that's the outcome of a good relationship Like something that you would have to do to create genuine happiness. Change some diapers, not leave diapers on the porch.

Speaker 2:

I guess I don't have you arrested. Speaking of, we'll leave it. It's 1036. You're getting a call, certainly, just got a message. That's just for funsies. We are live, by the way.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you up. Is that what it is? Yeah, that usually has a meaning Uh-huh.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, dead air. What are you doing over there? I?

Speaker 4:

just bitch. Hope you know that shit. You can never trust a hoe who hasn't learned that quick. She must not have Facebook. How many others are you sleeping with? All I know is I don't deserve this, you fucking bitch. Oh no, I don't. You fucking bitch.

Speaker 2:

I stand by my answer Genuine happiness. That's my answer.

Speaker 3:

All right, honey. Oh, I forgot we actually. You forgot we were actually on a podcast.

Speaker 5:

I got distracted. Come back to me.

Speaker 3:

I can't. You're the last one.

Speaker 5:

No, you.

Speaker 2:

Maverick wants to say goodnight. Can we do it on the podcast?

Speaker 3:

I don't think it's a good idea.

Speaker 2:

You got it.

Speaker 3:

See you in a minute. Okay, I think Because you know it's a good idea. You got it. See you in a minute, okay, I think, because you know it's not that, not at 1030.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, in bed by nine.

Speaker 4:

No, no, in bed by 830.

Speaker 5:

Sleep by nine yes, communication. Not just like communication in general, but being able to communicate and hear the other person's needs and feelings and thoughts, and even if you don't agree with them or like them, that's me clapping, working through it together.

Speaker 3:

Do I not do that? Did I say you didn't? Well, I'm just asking if I don't, you don't.

Speaker 5:

No, I think you do. I think I'm not good at communicating my feelings.

Speaker 1:

I think you suck.

Speaker 3:

She's just good at crying and shaking the bed. When she's crying and sleeping in it, I'm telling you I'm fine, she can make the bed shake, but she can't make her. Nope, nope. She tries, nope.

Speaker 1:

I know.

Speaker 3:

So I think communication makes a good relationship. You can't use mine. Did you say communication?

Speaker 5:

Yes, you dumb fuck. I guess I should have listened. Listening.

Speaker 3:

Listening makes a good relationship is what I shall say. Oh my God, listening doesn't.

Speaker 5:

I don't think you could have planned that more perfectly, that was perfect.

Speaker 3:

Hello, heather, welcome to the show. I don't think you could have planned that more perfectly. That was perfect. Hello Heather, welcome to the show. I see you there. You're a fucking bitch.

Speaker 1:

No, no, not you. That wasn't very nice, no, that was. Oh my God, you better tell.

Speaker 3:

Heather, you weren't talking about her I was not talking about you, Heather.

Speaker 5:

I was talking about you.

Speaker 3:

James just had songs to James's head. Who's monitoring comments? Now they might be saying something mean to you.

Speaker 5:

No, they're not going to be nice.

Speaker 3:

Heather says ha ha ha, Geez, James, Sorry. No, oh Lord, Now we have one less follower because of you.

Speaker 1:

I know I was just saying oh my God, my medicine's wearing off.

Speaker 3:

Her medicine. Heather, if you're in the neighborhood, drop by with some medicine for her, if you don't mind, please. So yeah, I think listening is important. I want to go see P90. Let's start at the top. Couples that have a good relationship. They had boundaries with family. I think that is so important. Yeah, they put their relationship first and had clear boundaries with family. They didn't vent to them.

Speaker 1:

She's a good thing. I sure do love you all.

Speaker 5:

Thank you.

Speaker 3:

We love you too, thanks.

Speaker 5:

I'm glad you understand.

Speaker 3:

They didn't vent to them about issues or make decisions based on what their families wanted. They did what was best for their partnership together. How do you think you do with that, Jams?

Speaker 4:

Alright.

Speaker 1:

I'm not in the position.

Speaker 3:

Alright, honey, how do you feel like you do with that? You ever complain to your family about me.

Speaker 1:

No, oh fuck, I do, you still, do Still.

Speaker 3:

I've never stopped.

Speaker 5:

No, I think that's one that I naturally had an inclination to succeed at. Yeah, but you know, I've always said, like young couples and people getting married young, I think this is a big factor that hurts them, because young people are still kind of finding themselves, so they're going to rely on their family a lot, which means they're going to go back to that kind of child, you know, relying on their parents and stuff and involving their parents and things. He's not here. I hit his mic for him.

Speaker 3:

I can tell you I got in a fight with a girlfriend one time when I was in high school. Tell you, I got in a fight with a girlfriend one time when I was in high school and I still remember saying some things to my parents that she said to me that I should have never said to my parents yeah about them, no, that she said. She said something about me and it was in a fight and I was very upset and I relayed that to my mom and dad and and then your mom and dad wanted to fight her.

Speaker 3:

What? No, I mean not literally, but it affected their relationship with her? Well, it probably did, but it more like it was of a sexual nature. Oh, ew, yeah, and it was not the best. Shouldn't have said it.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 3:

Wish I could take it back.

Speaker 1:

Of course you do Never mind Sometimes what Nothing.

Speaker 5:

Good talk.

Speaker 3:

You could still chime in. You're on the podcast.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

We've lost her.

Speaker 1:

I've just been in a real bad mood lately. Think long, think wrong.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, boundaries with family, I think is is very important and plus, your family's always going to side with you right, they're always going to see your perspective and of course you're giving, you're giving when I was married to you.

Speaker 5:

You're only giving your side of it so when you go to your family and you only give your side of it, so when you go to your family and you only give your side of events, you're not getting honest feedback. Yeah, and then you're getting slanted feedback. Right, and then you're also affecting their views of your partner. So you might just be upset and kind of talking in the moment, but what you say to them could change how they view your partner. And then where do you guys go from there?

Speaker 3:

We experienced that with our little friend here, this little mess over here that's gone Probably fighting with her right now.

Speaker 1:

Probably the number two thing Now can I sing it? Yeah, you're a fucking bitch. Hope you know that shit.

Speaker 3:

Not you, Heather.

Speaker 5:

James is trying to sing it loud enough to be heard. Well, we are on Facebook if she's listening too.

Speaker 3:

Heather, yeah, james is trying to say it loud enough to be heard. Yeah Well, we are on Facebook if she's listening. Thank you, Alf. I see that you've sent the spinning wheel sound. You're Johnny on the spot. I wish I would have had it before. That would have been nice. It should make the sound.

Speaker 1:

Well damn, don't chastise him for not studying it. No, I'm not chastising.

Speaker 3:

We're actually going to promote his new podcast on this show.

Speaker 1:

Oh, what is?

Speaker 3:

it. It is called the Day oh boy, sorry, alf the Day Before or the Day Before Yesterday, and it's a look back at different times in history where something has happened and they kind of talk about what led up to that. And it's actually going to be a really cool podcast. I'm excited to listen to it the Day Before Yesterday. I'm excited to listen to it the day before yesterday. I'm probably messing up the title.

Speaker 5:

I don't think that sounded right.

Speaker 3:

I think this next one we did very well, amanda. The number two piece of advice for couples that are what's the word?

Speaker 1:

Making it.

Speaker 3:

Successful, making it. They were friends, yeah. Now it's weird because Jams and I are much better friends than we were in a relationship.

Speaker 5:

But you reached the friend stage afterward.

Speaker 3:

Right, because there was no friend stage in the beginning, she couldn't keep her hands off me.

Speaker 1:

Oh, why did we do this?

Speaker 3:

And I was just trying to be her friend and she wanted more oh my god yes, that matches with what I know that's exactly right, there was a skating rink there was a warehouse. That's bullshit. I was just trying to mind my own business oh yeah, you were just trying to no, I was fixing my mic, stop mic.

Speaker 1:

You were trying to mind your own business. Have you lost your mind?

Speaker 3:

Yes, no, yes, but you and I were friends before we were.

Speaker 1:

Love us.

Speaker 3:

Sexual.

Speaker 1:

You could just say lover.

Speaker 5:

Intimate. Intimate's the right word, ah.

Speaker 3:

Well, and you too couldn't keep your hands off me. Uh-huh See, but do you think that?

Speaker 5:

helped us. I think that's you know. Hitting you doesn't really count.

Speaker 3:

Oh, so now I have it here that I was abused.

Speaker 5:

It is the day before yesterday. See, you're right.

Speaker 1:

I got it right. Go me Thanks, since you're going to be promoting it, you dumbass Well, no, no.

Speaker 3:

He sent me a clip that we're going to play in the show. So anyway, you believe it helped us right.

Speaker 5:

Yes, yeah, and even now, you're still my best friend.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

Sorry, james, but Just kidding, he's still my best friend. Well, I think you start to.

Speaker 3:

I think you have melting of the minds, so to speak. Yeah, when you're friends before, like Garrett and Violence, they were friends before Long before yeah, and you can tell that they kind of sing off the same sheet of music.

Speaker 5:

They had a comfort level of comfort together that went beyond intimacy and the relationship stuff, and you need that because it's not always going to be there's not going to be enough with the relationship side.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

The intimacy side. You've got to have the other side of it too. You need all sides. You need to want to crave that person's attention and their penis, and their penis. She can't help it.

Speaker 3:

Jams, what do you have to say about this? Were you friends with caleb before? Nope, we weren't. What I mean? Are you going to participate this week?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, are you okay? She's here, that's her participation. She's over here just drawing I am, I know, because I'm I'm trying to, you know, I'm just going, I'm fucking going through it. Okay, well, don't come to me. I'm not in a good fucking place right now this podcast is a way for you to work through it. Right now I can't say everything. I want to fucking say well you can try no no, she can't, nope, no, she can't.

Speaker 5:

I listened to it earlier and I was like, hey, hey, we got to stop, you should probably whisper a little bit better.

Speaker 3:

I also believe we've talked about this in the past. The best relationships have like sitting on the couch eating pork and beans you know, because that's all the money you had.

Speaker 5:

You've got to, I mean, you've got to be able to go through the good times and the bad, and that's probably, I think that's what you're saying how long are you supposed to let the bad last before you throw?

Speaker 3:

the towel together the difference the difference is it's not.

Speaker 5:

It's not the letting the bad last, it's not going through the bad together, it's it's being at a low and working together to get to your goal and having that same goal. I think that's part of that piece is having the same goal and both of you chipping in to get to it.

Speaker 3:

Yep.

Speaker 5:

You're going to pull and push each other.

Speaker 3:

But that's the friendly part. You are going to push each other because you're friends and you care, and that's when a genuine relationship builds. If you start off sexual right, if you start off just trying to, as the kids say, knock them boots.

Speaker 5:

I don't think the kids don't say that. I think you, as a kid, said that.

Speaker 3:

It's not doing that, it's knock them. Boots is what it's called it is.

Speaker 5:

I'm just telling you it was called that it's not anymore, but I think if they are friends.

Speaker 3:

Instead of that, we lost a viewer because of that. I think that it creates.

Speaker 1:

Because you said knock those.

Speaker 5:

They said I'm tired of listening to these old people, these guys. The next piece of advice Turns out we lost a viewer because my phone died.

Speaker 3:

I hate you so much.

Speaker 1:

That's funny, god.

Speaker 3:

Number three piece of advice to have a good relationship or in a relationship that makes it. They had been through really dark times. They had been through really dark times. So these couples had all been through really difficult periods where they were at a crossroads and even had second thoughts, but they chose to stay together and work through it. This establishes trust.

Speaker 5:

I disagree with pieces of that. I don't think you have to go through dark times to have a good relationship, but your relationship is never really tested until you go through dark times. So while, yeah, if you are a lucky enough individual to Well.

Speaker 1:

I can't fucking see right now. We need you to get one of those, a flashlight?

Speaker 3:

No, she needs one of those helmet lamps, a floodlight lamps, a floodlight so have we been through a tough time yeah, yeah, I think not necessarily.

Speaker 5:

I guess that's how many more times?

Speaker 4:

are you going to get your microphone?

Speaker 5:

I don't know if this is in a different place than it normally has been, because it's not where it usually.

Speaker 3:

I don't know how I've hit it, so many times, tell me the dark time we've been. Well, you don't have to tell me specifically We've been through dark times.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, we've been through our version of dark times, and I don't what our dark times are.

Speaker 3:

Is this when you were stripping for money?

Speaker 5:

Yes, would not be the same as dark times for other people. That's what I'm saying. I don't think it has to be like. I think people kind of envision dark times as you know, broke, losing your house, losing your car, no job.

Speaker 3:

I think it's dark relationship times, or or it can be.

Speaker 5:

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:

I think it's overcome something in your relationship.

Speaker 5:

I think dark times can be a lot of things and is different to a lot of people. But again, if you don't necessarily ever have that, that doesn't mean that your relationship is less. But it's never really tested until you do it.

Speaker 3:

And it establishes trust.

Speaker 5:

It's untested, yeah, but I don't think you have to have the bad to establish trust.

Speaker 3:

You have to have trust. To get through the bad, you have to have trust, until my wife punched her in the face.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

That tested our relationship.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that tends to do it.

Speaker 3:

You were mad at me for you getting punched in the face.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I was just mad at being sucker punched. It's not like I was punched directly in the face. I turned around to walk away and she said my name and I thought she wanted to say something else.

Speaker 3:

She did. Then she hit me. She wanted to say I'm punching you in the face.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Like it doesn't matter, though.

Speaker 3:

It doesn't fucking matter. This is the. This will be Jam's last bad boy. This is the.

Speaker 5:

She can't do it anymore. The time Denny makes Jamie quit no.

Speaker 1:

I just she's going through it, I'm going through it.

Speaker 3:

Number four piece of advice on Instagram Couples that made it. They let each other be themselves. There was a base level of respect and admiration for each other, rather than a desire to change each other. This freedom brought out the best parts of each of them. What if they need it? Well, I've always said you can't go into a relationship to change someone.

Speaker 1:

No, because I didn't go into it wanting to. Well, always said you can't go into a relationship to change someone.

Speaker 3:

No because I didn't go into it wanting to Well, but you should like if something rears its head after you're together. That's much different.

Speaker 5:

I think that comes to that pushing and pulling people to want them to be better.

Speaker 3:

What do you mean?

Speaker 5:

If you go into a relationship and one person starts to take a turn that the other person says, hey, this is not the path that we want to go on and I think you could be much better. I'm going to push you to be better because I know there's a better version of you. I think that's one thing. But if you go in to a relationship and say, hey, I have made up a better version of you in my head in the future, and I'm just going to push them to get to that.

Speaker 1:

Maybe that's what I'm doing.

Speaker 5:

No, I don't think so.

Speaker 3:

So, who knows, have you ever been in a relationship where you've tried to change someone?

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I think, I think that is a currently.

Speaker 5:

OK, that's when you that that's what you contribute Jump up to I think this is a typical female trait that we have to kind of grow out of, because women are really really good at creating this vision of what it should look like, of what things should look like what they're, and a lot of time it's what they're told things should look like, what men should act like, what their boyfriend should look like, and they find a person that they like and they're like cool, I like you, but I want you to be here and I need to do something different and I'm going to help guide you to that point because we're going to do it together and I think that comes from a good place.

Speaker 5:

But it's immature and it doesn't doesn't really account for. The person needs to grow on their own, not a lot of times that help talk.

Speaker 4:

I'm sorry what are you talking about?

Speaker 3:

Her Her yeah, her situation Got it, so I don't disagree, I think that. So I'm a bitch. No, no, no, I think yours came after Jams.

Speaker 5:

I really do. We both said that your, your vision Was the same, and then it wasn't. Yeah, and I think that's a completely different scenario.

Speaker 3:

But I think it can be fixed too. I think that I think, if you're in a relationship and it seems to not be going the way you've envisioned, it can absolutely be fixed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

But somebody's got to acknowledge it and move in that direction.

Speaker 5:

And both people have got to be willing to.

Speaker 3:

Both people. That's the key right there.

Speaker 5:

Compromise. It can't just be well. If you could only do this, everything would be better. That's not how it works.

Speaker 3:

Are we placing bets? Oh no, he's back. Was I right? Are we placing bets? Oh no, he's back. Was I right? Just trying to fight? Oh good, All right, I'd have lost. Braden, you ever been in a relationship where?

Speaker 5:

they wanted to change you. Boy, have I? Well, if you weren't so stupid to begin with, nobody would have to try and change you.

Speaker 1:

How did it go? Still stupid.

Speaker 2:

Divorce and a whole lot broker Not divorced. I said a divorce, they did it. It's still going through, boy, is it?

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Number five You're a fucking bitch Hope you know?

Speaker 3:

Number five, piece of advice or what? Something that they made when they made it. I guess I messed that up, sorry. They had difficult conversations, they being the couple. The couple communicated regularly and were open to each other's perspectives. They didn't cope by avoiding or denying. Emotional regulation was present, so conversations rarely became explosions.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, no, no, I fucking explode, so I would say you two are that communicator.

Speaker 3:

You guys start soft and then blow up in 30 seconds. Yep, would I. Is that fair?

Speaker 2:

it takes her a little longer to blow up. I am it.

Speaker 3:

I am very short fuse because I will let you fester. I'll let you die before you engage me. If I don't want to be engaged, you aren't going to get me.

Speaker 2:

I don't think that's the right way to do it, though I'm not saying it is no, and I'm not saying you were I, just I don't, I couldn't be like that. I'm just saying oh, you could piss me off, like If you're going to text me, there's a 98% chance I'm going to text you back. Rather, quickly. Well, I'm just going to say you had a saying if you're mad at me, more me is not going to fix it, and that stuck in my head so much. But you can't seem to.

Speaker 2:

And now, Alexis uses it on me.

Speaker 3:

Oh, you're upset Well you better figure it out I guess I'll be over here when you're ready.

Speaker 2:

I say that a lot too. I hate it when you're ready.

Speaker 3:

I'll be over here, yeah, just because I'm mad at him all over again. Just what he said If you're upset, what am I going to do Now? Here's what Jams needed that I was never able to. She wanted the passion, she wanted the fight, she wanted the energy. You know what I don't, and I mean you did, though.

Speaker 1:

I know I did, but I don't. I don't, I just want things to be fun.

Speaker 2:

That's because hers medicated.

Speaker 5:

No, I don't think it's that A lot of again I'm going to give like female perspective for me it's. I need someone that's willing to fight for me.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean with you.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah, no Care enough About our relationship.

Speaker 4:

So what yes?

Speaker 5:

Fucking hash it out, no matter how hard it's not. It's not easy to fight, it's not easy to say everything that you're feeling and to get it out of out.

Speaker 1:

But to actually have fucking words be spoken back.

Speaker 5:

But to, but to have your partner respond to you when you are having whatever moment. Says that they are still there to fight for you.

Speaker 3:

So they're wanting to fight for your relationship do you feel like I fall short?

Speaker 5:

on that I wish you would a little more engage, but I have adapted and understand your perspective as well and that's I think that's an important piece of it, because I because you do what I say no, I'm not going to change who you are and I'm not a fighter either. We're not. You know, you and Jamie were polar opposites.

Speaker 3:

You were never Opposites are much worse than opposites.

Speaker 5:

You were never going to fight. What's the opposite?

Speaker 2:

of fight.

Speaker 5:

She wanted to always be more higher end fighting. I'm not. I don't want to fight. I'll get emotional and I might get pushed to a fighting point.

Speaker 3:

I'll tell you why I don't fight with you. It's much different than why I didn't fight with Jams.

Speaker 1:

Why didn't you fight with me?

Speaker 3:

Because they were going to find you in the field.

Speaker 1:

That's twice.

Speaker 4:

I've said that.

Speaker 3:

Now with Amanda. I can understand that I don't want to see you cry. I know I don't want to hurt you.

Speaker 1:

He didn't fucking care if I cried.

Speaker 3:

That's because you didn't cry. You were just mean. I did cry. Oh, but Jams was different. Jams wanted the fight and, as a matter of fact, our bedroom door still has a crack in it because of a fight she and I had. And afterwards she was like that was kind of nice Because I hit that door Poor.

Speaker 4:

That's just embarrassed.

Speaker 3:

But no door. Poor she's embarrassed.

Speaker 5:

But no, seriously, no, no, but that's just it. She wanted that raw emotion.

Speaker 3:

She wants the passion, yes, the raw emotion, and then, when it's over, she's like ah, okay, there it was, and I'm just not there, and then she just pissed you off some more You'll be friends now Guess what.

Speaker 2:

We're all better now to be friends now.

Speaker 5:

Guess what. We're all better now, but that's just it. You're the kind of person that you explode and get it all out and then you're like cool, now I feel better, I wish.

Speaker 3:

I felt better. When you puke, you just want to stick your finger down your throat and get it over with. I, on the other hand, would rather never puke. I'll sit for two days and fight it, so it never comes out.

Speaker 5:

And I'm somewhere in Somewhere in the middle, like they can be dragged out of me, but I'd really really rather not Brayden has, like he said, a hair trigger.

Speaker 4:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 3:

It is so quick he can go from I'm fine to. The house is burning to the ground in 60 seconds. Drives me, bananas Me too, me too, me three. Everybody shut the hell up. Me too.

Speaker 5:

Me too, me three.

Speaker 2:

Everybody shut the hell up Are you going to get mad.

Speaker 5:

Case in point.

Speaker 2:

I'll get mad like I used to. All right.

Speaker 3:

That's when you were a baby. Number six is a good one. This couple, or these couples, they fought. They got on each other's nerves. They fought and were frustrated with each other at times, but they knew how to navigate conflict, bounce back and move forward. How are you at navigating conflict Jams? Not good, I'm serious. Do you think you're not good?

Speaker 1:

No, I am a lot better.

Speaker 3:

How do you navigate conflict now? What do you do?

Speaker 1:

Well.

Speaker 2:

Hers mows the yard.

Speaker 1:

I mow the yard on a bad boy and I get blisters and bruises. This is actually your fucking bitch. Hope you know that shit that's actually from when I pulled the wax off my arm hey, real quick, we're doing a podcast here. I don't know I know, I just found another bruise. Fuck you.

Speaker 3:

Do you mind talking about fighting?

Speaker 2:

No, navigating.

Speaker 1:

I navigated by getting on the mower.

Speaker 2:

No, you have. No, she doesn't navigate. She's like guess what? It's coming and it's coming right at you. What are you going to do? Wait, here it comes. Train's coming Choo-choo? I don't think so.

Speaker 5:

I think she has tried to plan and navigate. But when you have, when you're trying to navigate and your partner's just like man, nope like me no, no.

Speaker 5:

I think this is where this kind of ties in together for us, because I have navigated your response versus my response and I we have learned how to make that work and how to get through issues. You know that sometimes I'm gonna get upset and you want to know what's wrong and you'll ask me what's wrong. But if I say I'm fine, that really means I'm just not ready if I can talk about it right now, because I don't have my wits about me.

Speaker 3:

Here's what I do. When that happens. I'll be like honey, you could just tell me now and we can get this over with, or you can tell me in two weeks what you were upset about two weeks ago and you don't have to sulk for that long.

Speaker 5:

We probably talk about it in three days.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because it's not going to be two weeks. But that's compromise, but she does, and what's funny is most of the time I say are you upset because blank, and she says no, and then in three days she's like I was upset about that.

Speaker 2:

We'll pick up the conversation as if you just talked about it.

Speaker 3:

She's already had the conversation.

Speaker 2:

She's got that special thing like oh yeah, remember there's four of them instead of three. And you're like what?

Speaker 3:

do you mean oh? We talked about that last. November.

Speaker 5:

Didn't I just do that to you, probably last night.

Speaker 3:

Yes, like I don't know how your brain works, like that it it has an amazing callback and I I don't even know how to, because those conversations are still circling in my head 24 7 and like it's like you and I are still having them.

Speaker 5:

You and I are having at least 16 conversations right now. What are we talking about right now in your head? Give-7. It's like you and I are still having them. You and I are having at least 16 conversations right now. What are we talking about right?

Speaker 3:

now in your head. Give me one of them.

Speaker 5:

We're revisiting what we were talking about when I got home from work.

Speaker 3:

Oh, your work story.

Speaker 5:

And then we're talking about the podcast stuff and we're talking about football and we're talking about the girls being sick and we're talking about what I'm going to do with the enough, I've had enough, I've had enough, I will freak out it's amazing that you can go to sleep, but maybe this is how you go to sleep so easily.

Speaker 2:

Don't take you in some make your whole body feel weird that's not true restless leg syndrome on your arms I already have that.

Speaker 3:

I already twitched to begin with so, jams, do you feel like the fight is an important part of a relationship, is an important?

Speaker 1:

part of a relationship.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, Do you? Because you are a different person than when we were married.

Speaker 1:

I would rather not fight. You would rather not fight at all. Yeah, I would rather. Just I mean argue, okay, arguments happen. Just I mean argue, okay, arguments happen. But you know, I just I just want to come home and have a nice evening and sit at a dinner table and then fucking go to bed and wake up and everything just be where it should be. I just want a simple life. That's all. That's all now I just want to?

Speaker 5:

no, but you wouldn't mind an occasional angry fight and make up sex. Right should be. I just want a simple life, that's all. That's all now. You want splinters? No, but you wouldn't mind an occasional angry fight and make up sex.

Speaker 1:

Right, I mean there's nothing wrong with that, but how the hell did we get there?

Speaker 5:

That's 100% part of it, because it's passion, it's the other person cares enough to fight with her, and then they fight and they get, get it all out and then they go have fun and then, they get it in Honey.

Speaker 3:

are we fighting right now?

Speaker 2:

I was gone for 14 minutes. How did?

Speaker 1:

we get here, I just missed a lot.

Speaker 4:

I heard you guys.

Speaker 2:

I did not know how loud the cackling was out there. I got to witness it and it was you.

Speaker 3:

She's a cackler, it was loud.

Speaker 2:

I bet that was so funny.

Speaker 5:

It was funny. Oh, I probably said it. Do you believe couples have to fight? No, no, I think every person has a different threshold for that.

Speaker 3:

I will tell you what I'm most afraid of. Here's why I don't fight the moment I don't fight. Here's why I don't fight the moment I don't fight. Here's why I don't fight. I'm done, that's true. But here's why I don't fight Because I am afraid the fight will bring the end.

Speaker 5:

Right.

Speaker 3:

So I don't fight. And because something may get said that you can't unsay, something might get.

Speaker 1:

Denny told me he hated me for three fucking months and then they got a divorce.

Speaker 3:

But I love you now.

Speaker 2:

Yep as a friend.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm but.

Speaker 5:

I think, besties no, and I see that I believe that like you are when your emotions are running hot.

Speaker 3:

You're more likely If you touch that motherfucking microphone.

Speaker 2:

See, you guys are fighting right now you guys are fighting. Say something you don't mean real, fast Give her an example. So Say something you don't mean real fast Give her an example.

Speaker 5:

So, but I believe and I punched yours like six times because you weren't there.

Speaker 3:

I am so worried when there is a fight that something is going to trigger. I'm just not doing this anymore.

Speaker 2:

We could have never fought. I said that to Alexis the other night. We had just got done. It was a little tiff, little something. And I got home and I said, hey, are you all right? And she was like, yeah, why? And I said, why does it feel like the world is ending? Do you still want to be with me? And the next morning she made fun of me for it. So bad.

Speaker 5:

And I was like oh my God.

Speaker 3:

She got up and you guys were both standing up. She looked down at you and said you're so cute when you're insecure.

Speaker 1:

That was a little uncalled for.

Speaker 2:

Dude, it's all uncalled for, All of it.

Speaker 1:

I don't know about all of it. I don't know about all of it, but not all of it I don't have a single friend who did that.

Speaker 5:

That wasn't me, that was you. You stood up.

Speaker 3:

I think that was you. No, I didn't do it it was me. Yeah, sorry.

Speaker 2:

I don't have a friend in this room right now, but you do.

Speaker 5:

Last piece of advice Hold on. I want to touch on that.

Speaker 3:

Oh, you can touch on it.

Speaker 5:

Because the same reason you don't want the fight, because you think that's the end I want the fight.

Speaker 1:

I think for the people who.

Speaker 5:

Because you want the fight, who need the fight and need to talk about it? It's because, until it's talked about, they feel like it's the end. That's what it is for me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but you know what, If I feel they actually have to fucking talk back, in order for that fight to be resolved.

Speaker 3:

You know the other thing about that, though is when people do, when people do start talking. If they start the self-deprecating bullshit, it's worse Well yeah, because it's worse.

Speaker 2:

I've caught myself doing it and I'm like hey, what do you think she's hearing?

Speaker 1:

No, she's hearing. Ooh, I'm a little bitch. Oh, no, dude.

Speaker 2:

Tell me that's not aimed at me right now.

Speaker 1:

No, if you do that, it is.

Speaker 2:

I haven't done it.

Speaker 1:

With Brianna.

Speaker 2:

I did. Sometimes I ruin everything. All I do is ruin your day. I'm a.

Speaker 1:

You know, all I do is ruin your day. I'm a little bitch. I can't do anything.

Speaker 3:

Most of the time you think you're fixing things by saying that.

Speaker 5:

You're not.

Speaker 3:

You feel like you're taking everything the blame and putting it on yourself and like that's somehow going to magically fix it.

Speaker 1:

And it never does it actually makes it worse and they view you as less. You know what I feel Every time, every time, but I feel like it would be a little bit different if you stopped doing it and tried harder.

Speaker 2:

I'm not. Oh, I was about to say it. We're live, because you got one more time to give me that piercing. Look like I'm someone else.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm just saying.

Speaker 3:

You got one more Honey. What were you going to say?

Speaker 5:

I forget, oh well just you say like you don't fight because you think at any point the fight could be the end. For me it's until it's fixed. It feels like the end. So, even if you're like, if I feel like you're upset with me and I can't get you to talk to me about it and tell me what's going on, I feel like I'm being crushed from the inside.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that's sad.

Speaker 5:

Until it's fixed. That's just.

Speaker 2:

Some people internalize it, some people externalize it, and then everybody needs to talk about it Sometimes you just need to talk about it in maybe two or three days instead of two or three weeks.

Speaker 5:

Well, I do that so that I'm not.

Speaker 1:

I tell you what when I stop fighting, you're going to find empty closets and a room Empty, goddamn dressers and a note of Dear John letter.

Speaker 3:

No, there's never empty. The dressers are gone.

Speaker 2:

No, she knocked one over one time. I just walked upstairs I was like yeah, how does a dresser get knocked over?

Speaker 5:

I don't know, ask your little tiny heathens upstairs.

Speaker 2:

No, it was from you, whispering everything out of it in one motion.

Speaker 3:

A fucking tornado. The last piece of advice from couples that made it.

Speaker 1:

I don't give a.

Speaker 3:

I guess we lost our TikTok feed, but that's okay. Oh, hold on, I'm going to fix it. It says there's inactivity. There wasn't any inactivity.

Speaker 5:

We're talking.

Speaker 3:

Lots of activity we're talking, so I hate TikTok. Last piece of advice these couples, they made light of each other's quirks. I think that's important. Oh my goodness, they appreciated and acknowledged the quirks of each other's quirks.

Speaker 2:

I think that's important.

Speaker 3:

Oh my goodness, they appreciated and acknowledged the quirks in each other, even if they were at times annoying, they made light of them and were never hypercritical.

Speaker 2:

Alexis calls me autistic no less than 14 times a day.

Speaker 5:

What would be wrong with that?

Speaker 2:

Nothing, I just I do something very specific and she's like tism and then she just skedaddles her little ass away from me.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure we still are.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we are still alive. What's the problem? I probably have autism at some point.

Speaker 3:

I don't think that helps.

Speaker 2:

I'm a member.

Speaker 5:

Hey, why don't you just shut the fuck up? Hey man, I just gotta let you know that sometimes you gotta shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2:

There's hot autism and medicated I got the hot one Shut up.

Speaker 3:

That's enough, Okay. So what I'm saying is like All your relationships are fucking doomed. Oh boy this episode brought to you by Damn. But I think you know this goes in line with what we do with the kids. We tease them so that others can't Right, we de-weaponize words, we de-weaponize quirks, so we make fun of you for all your isms, all of your.

Speaker 2:

I had a conversation in my head All of your snarling and all of that.

Speaker 3:

We make fun of me for my controlling and how perfect I want things.

Speaker 2:

Wait a second Now. Everybody wait a damn minute. We don't make fun of you, it will ruin the evening.

Speaker 5:

That's not true. I make fun of him.

Speaker 1:

I enjoy it.

Speaker 2:

You do it when you know you're not supposed to. You do it until he gets pissy.

Speaker 5:

She takes my big spoon.

Speaker 4:

I just, I just.

Speaker 2:

I kind of slimmed down in the chair and I'm like all right, I know. And then I like when I'm driving home.

Speaker 1:

I'm like when I was 12, man, I really shouldn't have done that. Man is going to have a bad night. I feel really bad. Fuck it, I'm going home.

Speaker 2:

You got Cosmo eyes right now. You got Cosmo eyes right now, don't you?

Speaker 3:

That's because I'm waiting on her to break eye contact.

Speaker 2:

And then I just like all right, I just I'm going to will everybody to shut up Bite her. You guys got to stop talking to him.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, I don't know, I think that's, I think that's an important piece.

Speaker 2:

We make fun of jams for her life in general, what's a quirk that Alexis has, besides smelling like? Crackers, and are you allowed to say it on all of the lives she and this is something that for some reason, I I've gotten used to it a little bit, but she will not sit on her couch to hang out, it will. She always has to lay completely down in our bed and cover up and snuggle up and go to sleep. Nope, that is her hanging out.

Speaker 3:

Maybe you have to ask her how she does that.

Speaker 2:

She doesn't go to sleep.

Speaker 3:

I used to be able to do it.

Speaker 5:

Well, that's what he said, Because I get under a blanket.

Speaker 2:

And you're out Game, the fuck over at that point. Matter of fact, has he has quietly narrated what you were doing on the other couch and he's like she's gonna grab her blanket, she's gonna situate herself there, she goes, she snuggled in. All right, mark my word, three minutes. She's asleep and I'm just watching it and I'm like I'll be god damn.

Speaker 3:

I wish I knew somebody that well, two minutes and 56 seconds. She's out.

Speaker 2:

With Alexis, though. The second she gets home, especially if we have a kid-free night. Second she gets home, put some comfy clothes on, get in that bed, snuggle up and I'm like let's go sit on the couch. I feel like I'm laying down for bed. I don't want to do that, yeah.

Speaker 3:

My work schedule is kind of like that, so I do like to get in bed a little earlier.

Speaker 1:

I've gotten used to it now I begged him to do that for fucking five years. I lay on the bed now. Couldn't keep her hands off me. Told you.

Speaker 2:

I lay on it sideways by her feet while she's all snuggled up. Yeah, yeah, that's the right way.

Speaker 5:

He used to do that for a hot minute. I would get under the covers and he would lay across the bed and then I would just kick the shit out of him until he'd finally move enough for my legs.

Speaker 2:

Cause I can't have my legs, Doesn't it? I can't? Couldn't it just say excuse me?

Speaker 5:

I did, but he doesn't understand how my legs cannot be trapped at all. Oh I love, I love that. Oh, I will have a panic attack for real. I like to be cocooned in as well.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, cocooned in as well. Yeah, so those are pieces of advice on couples. That made it. Amanda, do you think we're going to make it?

Speaker 5:

Yes, boy.

Speaker 3:

That took a long time.

Speaker 5:

Well, I was trying to think of how to say if we don't, you won't make it.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry what.

Speaker 3:

It's the only option you got. Try it again. You know what. It's the only option you got. Try it again. You know what? Let's find out if other couples are going to make it.

Speaker 5:

It's the most wonderful time Of this goddamn podcast.

Speaker 1:

Yee-haw, did you really think this was going to be a feel-good segment, are you?

Speaker 5:

insane like me. Welcome to Relationship Advice with Ams and Jams. Well, you asked for our advice. We just hope you're ready for Brutal Honesty.

Speaker 3:

Brutal Honesty it shall be. We have an update, uh-oh, from a previous write-in. It's the butt dude. It's the butt dude Update. Here's all it says. Update with three exclamation points.

Speaker 3:

It's my butt, not hers. I have been with my wife for 14 years. We have two kids. Sex has always been okay from my perspective, but I always wanted to take it a step further. Yes, and she was not interested. Yes, I would let her know my desires and she would acknowledge, but never act on it. I'm getting older. I want to be connected, both emotionally and sexually.

Speaker 3:

I think I have to leave her. Yeah, it's crazy to think about leaving a relationship where so much is good, but I'm dying inside. Yeah, ams and jams, what should I do? Here's the update. Yep, you asked for more information, boy, did I? For a step further, I would like to just be a little kinky. That tells me nothing. I think I would appreciate another woman or man in the picture. I feel like an addict. Does this help you with my question? By the way, it's not a finger in the butt that I'm looking for. Damn it, dude. I figured that would help you.

Speaker 1:

Adding an extra person isn't just a little kinky, I mean choking her, smacking her Whips. Yeah, whips, it's a little kinky.

Speaker 3:

Choking, smacking whips. I don't even know the two of you, that's just a little kinky, we're in a den of whores, these two.

Speaker 1:

Wait a minute. Have you been around whips? Tell me.

Speaker 5:

I'm. Why would you ask the question? I mean, I rode horses, not whips like that.

Speaker 3:

What.

Speaker 1:

Tell me I'm bad.

Speaker 5:

Pull my hair and tell me I've been a bad boy.

Speaker 1:

Punish me. That's a little kinky. Not added an extra person. That's a bit kinky. That's a lot kinky.

Speaker 2:

Hey, fix the tone in your voice.

Speaker 3:

Have you experimented with?

Speaker 2:

two you have, haven't you.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

Oh no.

Speaker 3:

Ams. What's the?

Speaker 2:

question Two dudes? No, you a dude, another girl. Why am I asking? Shut up.

Speaker 1:

I've never done a threesome. It's like a train wreck. You can't look away.

Speaker 2:

I just want to watch it blow up. I just I want to watch the fire.

Speaker 3:

So there we go. That's our first person. That's written back. Well, second person.

Speaker 2:

So if you do another dude. Where are you at, sir? Are you in the middle of this sandwich? Are you one of the pieces of bread? Where are you? Have you heard of cuckold? If it's two girls, good on you, Good on you.

Speaker 5:

That's my ambition.

Speaker 3:

You're an ambitious son of a bitch. I would like to be a little kinky, I like to be a little kinky.

Speaker 1:

I think I would appreciate another woman or man in the picture, yeah, so that I think it's pretty funny, I feel like I'm not looking for a finger in the butt I feel like that's another dude in the bedroom, don't mind me I think that's a big ask for a couple, especially somebody who, like that's a very private thing and it's yeah, that's.

Speaker 5:

That's almost like telling your partner you're not enough for me if they're not into that too. Like that should have been established when you guys started, and if it wasn't, then no sir, you can't go that way and I think that's on you.

Speaker 1:

So I don't think it's worth like leaving the relationship, but but.

Speaker 5:

I mean, if you can't live without ever trying to threesome, then this honestly sounds like you're going through a midlife crisis dude, just go buy the fucking car.

Speaker 2:

You leave that in high school and college, not 14 years in the marriage no midlife crisis.

Speaker 5:

I'm getting old and I can't never have a- 35, 40 years old.

Speaker 3:

I've never had a threesome.

Speaker 5:

I'm not going to be able to get another chance, have I had my midlife crisis, yet Goddamn.

Speaker 2:

No, you're in it right now, jams, I think.

Speaker 5:

Dear Ams and Jams, I think she's in someone else's.

Speaker 3:

Me and my husband have been together for 15 years, married for 12, and we have four kids. We've always had a wonderful loving relationship and have both been amazing partners to each other. My mom is not doing well health-wise and I flew out to her with our youngest on Friday morning and we will be flying back tomorrow night. A few hours ago my best friend called me crying and said that she had got into a major fight with her husband after she found he cheated and asked if she could come over. She had forgotten that I wasn't in town and I talked to her for a little while and tried to calm her down. I also called my husband explaining situation and asked if it was okay for my best friend to spend the night in our guest room, and he was fine with it.

Speaker 2:

Of course he was. Absolutely, she can stay.

Speaker 3:

I took our iPad with me to keep our youngest entertained while at my parents' place. It has logged into my husband's Apple ID email, so his messages and calls show up on it.

Speaker 2:

What's up, baby?

Speaker 3:

When I went to put it on charge, I saw tens of messages, tens of messages from my best friend to my husband. I found it strange, since they were supposed to be under the same roof and I knew it was wrong to snoop, but I ended up reading the messages anyway, as you should. Long story short, something happened between them. My husband kicked her out and my best friend wants to keep whatever it is a secret. But my husband says that I deserve to know. I don't know what to do or think now and I have no one I can talk to about this ams or jams. What do I do now? Sounds like you can talk to about this Ams or jams. What do I do now?

Speaker 5:

Sounds like you can talk to your husband about it. He wants to talk to you, so let him bring it to you. I think it was stupid to say, hey, emotionally upset, looking for any sort of comfort, best friend.

Speaker 3:

Go see my husband's house. They were both. That's the, that's the utmost of trust, though They've been together what'd they say, 15 years? Well, I don't think it was him that did it?

Speaker 1:

I think it was her.

Speaker 3:

It was the friend Time out. There were two people it takes two Well. I'm saying Penetration is amongst friends.

Speaker 2:

She could have came on to him and he said no Get out. And now she doesn't want her.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, now, she doesn't want her friend to know 100 percent how I read that.

Speaker 5:

That's how I heard it. Something happened.

Speaker 1:

But something happened could be her coming on to him or trying to kiss him, that's how I read it.

Speaker 2:

It's 100 percent how I read it.

Speaker 5:

And he said no she's going to know about this. Something happened. Could be she kissed him. Then this dude's a superhero.

Speaker 3:

Well then, this dude's a superhero, he is a man's man.

Speaker 5:

Look, even I think it's respectable that, even if they did do more than that, he says, hey, this is not OK and we are going to tell her. I think it's shitty of the best friend to not want to tell her and cover it up.

Speaker 3:

I think, I think you should not tell him. I do think they should not tell him, like if if they were in that situation, they fixed it Too late. Now, she fucking knows.

Speaker 1:

Well, now she knows. Nobody knows though.

Speaker 2:

She hasn't told either of them.

Speaker 5:

They don't know that she knows.

Speaker 3:

I would like to know if he actually did mention it when she got home Huh.

Speaker 5:

Yeah. I would like to know if he really what happens when you get home. That's setting a trap.

Speaker 2:

That's against the law.

Speaker 5:

That's entrapment If it does not happen in the next few days, say hey, we need to talk.

Speaker 3:

You're going to let that go a few days and you are going to snarl and stomp.

Speaker 1:

Nope, you know what I would do Acknowledge it right away or forget it.

Speaker 5:

I'd walk in the house and say You'd walk in the house and say You'd slam up in the door and be like Anything, tell me.

Speaker 3:

Where's my friend?

Speaker 5:

Nope, I'd be like.

Speaker 1:

Where's so-and-so?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, see the tone in your voice. Hopefully they haven't been married to you for 14 years because they're like, oh no. She knows, I'm sorry. I said no, I'm sorry I sent her away. I, this dude, is a gentleman.

Speaker 5:

He sounds like he is trying to do the right thing and I think that needs to be heard, and I think the best friend Okay, you have to write back for sure. I think the best friend was in a really bad spot and wasn't in the right head.

Speaker 3:

It doesn't excuse what she did. Maybe if she was drinking does it change anything.

Speaker 5:

I think probably drinks were involved.

Speaker 2:

Oh, this can, absolutely. This can be solved or excused.

Speaker 5:

That's why I started shaking my head, because I thought the question was going to be husband said no and she didn't understand why. And I was going to say absolutely they should not stay there together because of this exact reasoning.

Speaker 2:

This can absolutely be talked out. The friend could say look, I had too many. You know, I had three bottles of wine. I didn't know what I was doing.

Speaker 1:

Oh bullshit. But what I'm saying is if they bring it up.

Speaker 2:

they can absolutely get through this All of them.

Speaker 5:

I think it's more shady that the best friend wants to hide it.

Speaker 3:

I think that's the other part, but I think the best friend is like my God. I'm losing my relationship. Now I'm going to lose my best friend over a quick mistake that may or may not be understood by the wife. I Over a quick mistake that may or may not be understood by the wife.

Speaker 2:

I just grabbed his wiener, that's all I didn't mean to Dear Ams and Jams.

Speaker 3:

your podcast this week about telling a friend if there was cheating made me write in.

Speaker 2:

Oh boy.

Speaker 3:

My wife was cheating on me for over 12 years with her coworker and her other coworker knew the whole time You're just dumb as shit.

Speaker 3:

then when I found out about the affair and that a couple of her co-workers knew, I told her that if I ever saw them again I would go off on them, but in particular her friend Jamie. Oh no, Because we were actually friends as well, or so I thought. My wife got upset at me and told me that I couldn't talk to her friend like that, because she was just being a friend.

Speaker 3:

So, I told her that I didn't ever want to see Jamie again Clarification for why we're still together. She asked for forgiveness and has apologized countless times. This is real and we're both in therapy as well as marriage counseling, Did she apologize every day for 12 years. We have three kids together and my daughter is young. I'm staying for my children. I have seen what divorce does to families, in particular my wife's, and I'm not going to put my children through that. As long as I can create a loving, stable environment for my children, I will stay. If she cannot, then she will have to leave. In other words, this is still very new and divorce is still in the picture. Ams and jams. I need advice.

Speaker 5:

Hey friend, have you listened to our show Divorce?

Speaker 1:

You guys are going to get divorced because you're not going to be able to get over it because you're staying for the kids. The moment you said I'm staying for the kids, said this relationship is dead.

Speaker 2:

Don't stay for the kids, dude. I've been through three divorces.

Speaker 1:

I'm not so bad.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm not so bad. Oh, you are Okay. Okay, garrett was through three divorces. Look at him.

Speaker 5:

There we go. Let's not use you as an example. Yeah, we should use Garrett. Now what?

Speaker 3:

about the friends in this situation. So the friends knew Should the friends have said hey, your husband is cheating on you?

Speaker 1:

It was the wife.

Speaker 3:

Or your wife was cheating on you.

Speaker 1:

It's always them bitches. Who are they better friends with? If they're better friends, it's a girl code. You don't do that. Sorry that I wouldn't. Sorry mandy.

Speaker 5:

Sorry denny wouldn't tell you. So I I definitely want to see pics, though. I think that people should be like, hey, there's something going on, but again there is. Are you loyal to this person? Are you loyal to that person?

Speaker 1:

where your loyalties lie now and.

Speaker 5:

But as far as the husband being mad at the friends like it's not their fault, I can understand you're like hey, I don't think you're good for our relationship. That makes sense if you're going to try and work on things. I don't think you should try and work on things, but that's another topic.

Speaker 3:

But I think it's the same topic.

Speaker 5:

Jam's already covered all my points on that. Are we telling him that he? Should divorce or yeah, he absolutely should divorce A 12 year affair. Yeah, yeah that is the divorce.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she had a whole other family with someone else 12 years, dude, and you didn't notice once, you didn't smell him on her once.

Speaker 5:

You think that after 12 years she's just leaving him.

Speaker 2:

Every day. She got home from work, she hopped in the shower immediately, dude.

Speaker 3:

Dear Ams and Jams, I've been married three years now and been with my husband for over five. My husband is the best. He is willing to communicate and tries to improve and build our relationship. No, he's not. You're writing into us.

Speaker 1:

Congratulations, congratulations.

Speaker 3:

We are very open with our feelings and opinions. However, I haven't told him that I still have feelings for a situation ship that I used to be involved with prior to our relationship. I'm afraid he wouldn't forgive me for lingering feelings.

Speaker 1:

Then shove it down and shut up and sit down With my ex we were solely a situation ship for about three years.

Speaker 3:

Off and on. We've kept in contact off and on. Even now. I haven't seen him since the beginning of my relationship with my husband, but I do think of him often, oh boy. We were mostly physical, but did hang out a few times and I was close with his best friends. We've had conversations where we've apologized to each other for the past. Unfortunately, we both struggled with alcoholism. I've been sober for over two years, but he has been struggling since I talked with him last. When he'd drink he would tell me how much he wants me and that he'd do anything to have me. Well, I think those two things go together, don't they? I've told him that I couldn't be his friend, which he understood, but about a month later I sent him a message and he did respond to ask if I was OK.

Speaker 3:

We haven't talked since, but all I can think about is talking to him. Is it possible to be in love with two people? I don't know if I should mention this to my husband or not. We've been very open in the past about flirting with others or having an open relationship, but this feels different. I don't want our relationship to change, but I also still want to talk to my ex. My philosophy on life is that it's too short to spend it miserable. But I don't want to hurt my husband at all.

Speaker 2:

This woman is scum of the earth.

Speaker 3:

I've tried everything to get my ex off my mind. I've even deactivated my Instagram account, but I also don't really want to stay away from him. It's a tough situation. Do I think? I'm sorry? I do think I love both of them. Is it possible?

Speaker 5:

You don't love both of them. You love the idea of the old one because you never got the real version of it and you just created a fake version in your fucking head and you're trying to live up to that fantasy instead of just enjoying the real relationship that you have I don't think you love either of them she's an addict and she's going back to you know that shit, hey, talk, play it again, let it play out she's, she's an addict and she's going back to the time in her

Speaker 1:

life that you know she craves.

Speaker 5:

What do you mean? Anytime you have that anytime, anybody can call it a situationship too. You don't have closure.

Speaker 3:

That was clearly physical. There was no relationship Clearly physical.

Speaker 1:

They drank together, you know.

Speaker 3:

They did the things that she craved together.

Speaker 5:

Addiction works in weird ways. I think that's what James is saying. Addiction works in weird ways. Your mental state is craving the alcohol. You said you struggled with alcoholism. They're craving the alcohol the time that it all happens. Your addiction knows that leading you back to this guy is going to lead you back to alcohol, especially if he's still actively struggling with it.

Speaker 3:

So what is our advice?

Speaker 5:

Go to therapy and tell your husband that you're having these issues, because that would be wrong, super wrong.

Speaker 2:

And it's been five years. Do you think she?

Speaker 3:

tells him that.

Speaker 2:

Oh god I think.

Speaker 1:

I think you go to therapy and just keep your mouth shut.

Speaker 2:

It has been five years and you are still hung up on your ex. You don't tell him.

Speaker 3:

You do not tell him you have to make a decision stay or go but you don't say, hey, here's where I'm at. I think about another man I'm hung up on Mr 27-year-old farmhand. I'm like, well then go find him if you've been hung up on him this long.

Speaker 2:

Exactly this dude will. He might eat a bullet. If you say that it's been five years, he thinks everything's great.

Speaker 3:

He's got a whole life with her. He has a future with you in his head, nah.

Speaker 5:

I think you need to go to some therapy, and my advice would be just stop putting that person on a pedestal.

Speaker 2:

Is her last name in the email. I want to find her on Facebook.

Speaker 3:

I would not let you. You would try and get in a relationship with her.

Speaker 2:

Not true? I want to tell this probably sweet man of a husband.

Speaker 1:

It's not our place.

Speaker 3:

It's nice that you say it this week, because last week it was no. I would tell no.

Speaker 5:

No, I would tell.

Speaker 3:

Shouldn't tell no, no.

Speaker 1:

I would tell, shouldn't tell. No, brayden and I were tellers, she would not tell. I will not tell on my friend.

Speaker 2:

Who's your? But you would tell, is he to?

Speaker 3:

tell her about me.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 3:

See, that's bullshit, that's a double standard if I've ever heard one. No, you would not tell me if she cheated, but you would tell her if I did.

Speaker 2:

That's literally the definition of a double standard. Now you're dumb and a whore. I mean I just can't take it.

Speaker 1:

How does that make me a whore? I didn't do it.

Speaker 4:

Well you have, though You're a fucking bitch. Hope you know that shit. You can never trust a home and you were talking about choking and hair and stuff and all that other stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, you two, hey you, hey, you two you know what?

Speaker 3:

Let's have a palate cleanser. It's time to talk about one thing I love One thing, you love one thing you hate. Brayden, you're first tonight, oh boy.

Speaker 2:

I love this is supposed to be quick hitting. I know I was thinking about it. I love that every single day that I pick the boys up from school, jet has jumped into my arms and it's been a I don't even know.

Speaker 3:

It's amazing that he can do it after the lawnmower incident, I know and he shouldn't be able to walk boy, I wish you didn't just say that.

Speaker 2:

And then Maverick. Every single time Maverick walks out of school, his shoes are untied and unlaced.

Speaker 3:

Needs to be run over by a mower.

Speaker 2:

Oh God. So I sit him on this bench and I tie him and I'm like buddy, how the heck did this happen? He's like I don't know.

Speaker 4:

And then we walk to the car and they tell me all about their day it's the best.

Speaker 2:

And then we walk to the car and they tell me all about their day it's the best. Picking them up from school is my favorite activity.

Speaker 3:

That is. That's a good story. What's something you hate?

Speaker 2:

Their mom, my other thing, and mine Turns out Pretty funny, moms, moms, I'll give you that Jams.

Speaker 3:

Something you love, something you hate.

Speaker 1:

I love.

Speaker 2:

PG this time, damn it.

Speaker 1:

No names. I love that. I got a very big piece of news off my chest. Yeah, well done, yes. Oh yeah yeah, I also love that it'll never be talked about again. Let's hope, yeah, and I I also love that I'll never be talked about again. Let's hope. Yeah, and I, I, I hate life. Yeah, uh, huh.

Speaker 3:

Honey, something you love, something you hate, as we get out of here.

Speaker 2:

I mean, is it? It's like?

Speaker 5:

You know, I thought, I thought I knew it.

Speaker 2:

But I forgot.

Speaker 3:

She thought she knew it, now it's gone.

Speaker 2:

Do you love keeping stats at football games?

Speaker 5:

No.

Speaker 2:

Well, there's your hate.

Speaker 3:

Makes me angry.

Speaker 5:

I had my love and hate.

Speaker 1:

Now, I forgot it.

Speaker 5:

No, I forgot.

Speaker 1:

Why do you do it if you don't like it? Amanda?

Speaker 5:

Sit with me and gossip.

Speaker 1:

I love football Because she hates it.

Speaker 3:

There's love. What do you hate? Got something with me.

Speaker 5:

Oh, I love that I got my car back and I'm super excited. I like it. She got her legs waxed A whole bunch.

Speaker 3:

Her car does look good.

Speaker 1:

I hate. She got her legs waxed. I hate.

Speaker 5:

I hate, I hate.

Speaker 2:

Children.

Speaker 5:

Shit stirrers.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, shit, disturbers is what they're called no shit stirrers yeah, with their, with their big spoon.

Speaker 2:

I will tell you no this was.

Speaker 5:

This was just a imaginary spoon of completely made up nonsense.

Speaker 3:

I hate. Oh yeah, let me start with what I love. Yeah, please, I love my children which one's your favorite?

Speaker 2:

not true, they're all my favorites. Nope, you need to pick one, you have six.

Speaker 5:

I need to pick one. She wrestled with Piper last night and she said I had so much fun with you.

Speaker 2:

Boy. I mean, is it always just going to be? It's going to be Piper and Audrey Isabel, I don't know the rest. You're at the bottom, I gotta be.

Speaker 3:

You know what I hate? Please tell us. I hate losing anything, anything, any competition. I don't want to lose it. Hey, head on over to Thank God, cancer Saved Our Divorce. There's more about us over there, jams is having a seizure and Chico lives.

Speaker 4:

Y'all crazy bitches. R-d-i-v-o-r-c-e, you gotta fight, bitch.

Speaker 3:

Well, we're finally updating this part of the outro. Find us at thankgodcancersavedourdivorcecom. Where else can they find us, Jamie?

Speaker 1:

You can search on Facebook for Thank God, cancer Saved Our Divorce. You can find us on Twitter, instagram and TikTok. If you at TGC SOD, what's that stand for? Thank God, cancer Saved Our Divorce.

Speaker 3:

TGC SOD Correct. That's weird. That actually kind of lines up it does. We'll take it, thanks, thank you.