My Wife, My Ex-Wife, and ME!
Imagine a groundbreaking podcast where your current wife and your ex-wife share a mic. In this captivating podcast, Denny takes center stage as he navigates conversations with Jamie, his ex-wife, and Amanda, his present wife, using nothing but a microphone to untangle the complexities of their intertwined lives. Together, they explore the challenges and triumphs of parenting, tackling sensitive subjects such as divorce, co-parenting, and the emotional journey of overcoming cancer while cheering on their shared daughter, Audrey. Throughout the episodes, our trio courageously confronts the realities of their relationships, discussing adoption, the dynamics of blended families, and the sometimes turbulent waters of step-parenting. This podcast invites listeners into an authentic dialogue about life and family, emphasizing the theme of "parenting without excuses." With humor, honesty, and heartfelt insight, Denny, Jamie, and Amanda offer a refreshing perspective on what it truly means to support one another as co-parents and navigate the complexities of modern family life.
My Wife, My Ex-Wife, and ME!
Diddy Did It, Didn't Diddy?
What do mysterious football signals, a double date cruise gone awry, and hidden secrets from the past all have in common? They're part of the tapestry of humor and heart we've woven into today's episode. Join Denny, Amanda, and Jams as we kick off with a barrage of technical bloopers in the studio and transition into tales of solo adventures to Ireland. Our banter takes unexpected turns, reflecting on the quirks and contrasts of family lifestyles, including a memorable double date on a cruise that was more Titanic than romantic.
The laughter continues as we tackle the enigmatic world of football play calls and social media shenanigans, with Jams sharing her weekend escapades. Amanda bravely opens up about her struggles with anxiety, underlining the courage it takes to speak one's truth amidst a backdrop of conspiracy theories and celebrity scandals. From bartering at the zoo to power dynamics in the entertainment industry, our conversation is a rollercoaster through the landscape of trust and betrayal.
As the episode wraps up, a touching letter from a listener brings the focus to deeper issues of trust, betrayal, and healing. We dissect a poignant story of discovering a late spouse's hidden secrets and the journey toward forgiveness and independence. With a dash of humor and honest advice, we explore infidelity, the trials of moving on, and the balance between planned change and life's spontaneous surprises. Join us for hearty laughter and meaningful insight, and don't forget to share your thoughts with us on social media!
I'm Amanda, the wife, and.
Speaker 2:I'm Jams, the ex-wife, and I'm Brayden just the future.
Speaker 4:Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Denny Broins. I'm the only man dumb enough to get his wife and ex-wife in a studio to do a podcast. And here it is my wife, my ex-wife and me that peace and happiness might be found there. You gave me hope.
Speaker 3:And now, now we have to say goodbye Ouch. If there's any bitches in this room then there's something I gotta say, say For all the fools who fell for the first.
Speaker 4:Girl who comes their way. I've been down that road and. I'm back Sitting on square one.
Speaker 4:Trying to pick myself up. Where do I start it from? My Wife, my Ex-Wife and Me starts now. Starts right now. Welcome to this week's edition of my Wife, my Ex-wife and me starts now. Starts right now. Welcome to this week's edition of my Wife, my Ex-Wife and Me. I've got a little extra light on over here. I'm trying to get shut off. I came down into the Every Joke has a Little Truth studio and that was on. Was it you that did it? It was me.
Speaker 2:I knew there was an explanation and you knocked pictures off the wall.
Speaker 1:Oh, I didn't do that. Yes, you did. No, I didn't.
Speaker 4:I wasn't even over there. Fake news. I think you were.
Speaker 1:I had to get headphones. Would I need to come over there?
Speaker 4:You are mysterious in everything that you do. That's not true.
Speaker 2:Mysterious in everything she does.
Speaker 4:She is very mysterious in things that she does, so welcome to this week's edition of why Would you Do that?
Speaker 1:I did. I was curious if it was on.
Speaker 4:Now you have forced me, try it now, oh. I hate you. I sometimes wish we had not went back to the original format with just the three of us. But here we are. Oh, I muted the wrong person.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm not muted how about now?
Speaker 1:did you meet me? Did you meet me? Did you moot me? I was trying to talk too closely. This has already started off as a horrible podcast. I'm just not horrible, that's funny, that is entertainment, so say that.
Speaker 4:That's funny, that is entertainment. So welcome to this week's podcast. We're going live on a Sunday, which is not normal. We had some extenuating circumstances that were out of our control, but we'll leave that for another day. It's time for happiness. Would you like to be happy today?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've been happy.
Speaker 4:I'm happy all days oh, I don't think that's true. We've got everything recording. Um, hey, while I've got everybody here before I do introductions and whatnot, I don't want to get too deep into it, but uh, there's some projects happening out there in the Bella Brave camp, so keep an eye on Kyla CT's social media, bella Brave. If you remember her, it'll be worth your time, I believe. And then our friend of the show, alf, has a nice podcast out. There's a few episodes out there called the Day Before Yesterday, and it's where he dives in and discusses historical what would it be? Historical events, content, events, television shows, just everything. It's a great concept for a podcast and I really am excited to see him do really well with that. So he's invested. He's actually over in Ireland right now, yeah.
Speaker 2:I saw that that's cool.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so went over there on a trip to Ireland by himself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the way to do it.
Speaker 2:Sign me up next, you don't have to worry about anybody else, would you really?
Speaker 4:go to Ireland alone, you would? You don't seem like the type that would travel well by yourself.
Speaker 2:I don't, but I'll get there.
Speaker 4:I know you would get there, but would you enjoy it? That's the question.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I would enjoy it. You think by yourself.
Speaker 4:Maybe not, amanda, you would enjoy it if you went alone. I think so. Yeah, maybe not Amanda.
Speaker 1:you would enjoy it if you went alone.
Speaker 4:I think so yeah.
Speaker 1:Now I mean that's, I would enjoy going with you equally, oh, equally, but that's because we're the same, you wouldn't enjoy it more if I went. I mean maybe a little more, depending on how nice you were to me.
Speaker 4:Oh, I can be pretty nice, so not anymore. I'm pretty nice.
Speaker 1:But that's because we're the same person going with anybody else Trip ruined, hard to travel with people it is.
Speaker 4:I went on a double date cruise one time with one of my wives and I really love the couple we went with.
Speaker 1:Because it wasn't the two in this room. Nope, probably definitely wasn't the first one, right?
Speaker 4:You are right on all counts and never do that again. It was weird when they want to do stuff and you don't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's Really. You wouldn't go with Caleb and I, you don't?
Speaker 1:realize how different families live. We talk about that all the time like we think we're normal, that this is the way everybody lives, and then you spend some time with people and you're like holy shit, I have mentioned to you specifically that, like I think I worry about how odd I really am and I just don't know it because maybe we're the ones that don't know it.
Speaker 2:We're the weird ones, yeah, and everybody talks about us.
Speaker 1:Probably. Look at those freaks over there. Uh-huh Yike.
Speaker 4:Speaking of freaks to my left. Oh, should I have not said that? I don't know. Am I a freak? It's my ex-wife Jams you ruined everything you, stupid bitch, you ruined everything you stupid, stupid bitch.
Speaker 5:You're just a lying little bitch who ruins things and wants the world to burn.
Speaker 2:Bitch, you're a stupid bitch.
Speaker 4:God, you're a bitch, Lose some weight. Hello Jams.
Speaker 1:Hello, do you think anybody like? Did you get my mouth-breathing joke?
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 1:Nobody got your mouth-breathing joke.
Speaker 2:I do want to tell you this I didn't finish what I was fucking saying.
Speaker 1:No, she has a thought.
Speaker 2:I want to hear her thought oh, did you forget your own thought? Shit. Oh, this is gold. No, hold on. No, she has a thought.
Speaker 4:I want to hear her thought oh, did you forget your own? Thought Shit, oh, this is gold. No, hang on, Don't worry, I'll be right here.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no. Don't play that, Don't play that. I won't fall. Now it's gone.
Speaker 4:That's funny. You say that about orgasms.
Speaker 2:You were so excited about it too. Do you think?
Speaker 4:anybody listens to my I'm like man. He must really hate her. He must fucking think she's a real bitch.
Speaker 2:I spent thousands of dollars having that made for you, having it made for me.
Speaker 4:Honey, were you here watching the Colts game today, when Anthony Richardson had a very unique signal?
Speaker 1:Yes, I think I caught it before you did. Oh no, you didn't. Yes, I was watching the Colts game Because Garrett and I both said, oh my.
Speaker 4:God. First of all, I am starting to hate the Indianapolis Colts. Why?
Speaker 5:They're so bad right now, their decision at quarterback was horrible.
Speaker 4:I said it then. I'll say it now their play calls are retarded. He's a Shouldn't even be playing football. So there you have it Well.
Speaker 2:What I don't know Nothing. Go for it, it's all you.
Speaker 4:Well, I'm tired of him. I'm very aggravated, but what?
Speaker 1:I said things I shouldn't have.
Speaker 4:Oh well, I didn't catch it, so we're okay. Moving on.
Speaker 1:How bad.
Speaker 4:Not good. So their play they now, if you're watching on youtubecom, forward slash at tgc sod. I'm going to give you a look at what the play call or what the signal was. This is exactly what it was and I'm not exaggerating. I'm sure it's out there somewhere on tiktok or facebook it has to have been.
Speaker 4:It's out there somewhere, and this is what it was. He looked at his team, he turned both ways and he did this oh no, it was full fist. Yeah, it was, and he kept in and out that was the, that was the signal.
Speaker 1:What was it?
Speaker 4:I don't know that was a play call and I was like what in the hell is he doing? Why is that happening on camera?
Speaker 1:can't be the play, and they stayed on him for the entire time he did it. Nobody said, hey, probably should cut away from that, yep that was gold Wow.
Speaker 2:Well, I wonder what the play was.
Speaker 1:And who won? That didn't work. Maybe it was an in and out. An in and out, well, it's a football route. Maybe it's a football route, maybe it's. Is there a quickie route? I?
Speaker 4:don't know. They kept it on him for a long time.
Speaker 1:I know, oh my God, I don't know why they did it.
Speaker 4:I don't know why. If anybody out there watching knows what that play call was, please let us know, let us know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, send us what that? Because I'm a football coach. I have no idea, because I'm a football coach. We just watched that. What was that really interesting episode about the like stealing signals?
Speaker 4:Yeah, someone. Someone knows what that signal is.
Speaker 1:Somebody break that signal down for me.
Speaker 4:Well, break it down when two people love each other, when a man and a woman, when a mommy and a daddy. Oh Lord, so Jams, welcome to the podcast. Thanks, what are you diddling or diddling?
Speaker 2:I'm not diddling anything. What are you diddling? Oh, don't answer that, that's embarrassing.
Speaker 4:This is going to be another one of those podcasts.
Speaker 1:You're going to remember where Facebook is After last week. On a Sunday afternoon, are you watching that?
Speaker 4:After last week I actually got so many messages that said jams was on one this week.
Speaker 2:Why? What did?
Speaker 4:I did what did I did, what did I did, what did I did? You did some stuff last week. You were funny. It was like the return of jams. It's been a shitty weekend, not the jams that doodles all week.
Speaker 4:It has been a shitty weekend. You don't want to talk about it, though. No, it though, no, um. Just, I don't think you're getting that jams today. Well, you still might. That's why we're doing the podcast to try and lift your spirits. Oh, okay, we're talking about your topic. Yeah, I, yeah. So this is, this is a lift for you content brought to you by jams and she has little little caramel drop fingernails.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that match our daughters. And you know, I told her I was going to bite them and she was so afraid that I was going to bite them and break them.
Speaker 2:She was so afraid, oh because the guy said 30 times don't bite your nails, oh, okay.
Speaker 4:Probably can't do that either. I'll do that again. Now you're both one for one. Anybody else want to try and get us canceled? Oh oh oh, did someone mention it? No, alf. Alf is joining us from ireland.
Speaker 1:Oh, hello, alf, welcome to the podcast from. He said last week's pod was fantastic because of you. This week's pod is ruined because of me, that's actually true canceled.
Speaker 2:There will no longer be a podcast that's rich coming from you you don't even know what I said I bet we could find out turns out it's recorded, it's on recording.
Speaker 4:So anyway, on the recordings I just got a message from you. I just got a message from tiktok that says your live is not eligible for recommendation and restricted in search results because it contains reproduced content.
Speaker 2:Well, I'll be appealing that this is my because of the song she played on it this is very my my.
Speaker 4:Well, do you think it's the Jeopardy music?
Speaker 2:No, I don't think it's the fucking.
Speaker 1:Jeopardy music Of all of the things you play Anywho. Can you focus, Pinky?
Speaker 4:I'm trying. I'm trying to do too much, pinky and the brain.
Speaker 2:You remember those mice?
Speaker 1:I do remember that's what I call all my kids at school.
Speaker 4:You know what? There's no Braden. He's at the zoo doing zoo things, doing some bartering. Do you think they're going to let him out?
Speaker 1:I was thinking with children, but okay.
Speaker 2:Sorry, what do you barter for at?
Speaker 1:the zoo I was with the monkeys monkeys kids, changing children in for monkeys.
Speaker 4:Yes, speaking of trading in, let's introduce my oh yeah, I'm not my beautiful wife amanda, I'm a bad bitch and I got bad anxiety.
Speaker 5:People call me rude because I ain't letting them. Try me saying I'm a hawk because I'm in love with my body issues, but, but nobody I can talk to about it. They keep saying I should get help, but I don't even know what I need. They keep saying speak your truth, and at the same time say they don't believe me. Excuse me while I get into my feelings for a second. Usually I keep it down, but today I got to tell it. Not that anybody gives a fuck anyway, but everybody talking shit probably sucks anyway. Y'all don't even know how I feel. I y'all don't even know how I feel. I don't even know how I do. Today I really hate everybody. And that's just me being real. Yeah, monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday bad bitches have bad days too. Friday, saturday, sunday bounce back high, bad bitch always too. All I really want to hear is it'll be okay, how's it going?
Speaker 2:mandarin. Uh good, this song could be a reason.
Speaker 4:Huh, yes, it could be, I was watching for a new.
Speaker 2:By the way, if you post like when you do lives, we don't own the rights to this music. I think.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Hey, we don't own the rights to this Say that we don't own the rights. Anyway, we also don't monetize, so suck it so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you were talking about trading in. I would like to tell James a story. We were at lunch yesterday and he looks at Isabel and says Isabel your next stepmom is 12 somewhere right now.
Speaker 4:That's so fucked up, denny, and I said oh so she'll be 11. But I said you're not going to meet her until you're 12. No, I came up with the math.
Speaker 1:She just won't be around for another six years.
Speaker 4:And I said oh, you mean when it was Isabel's, 18 was the number I was joking about. That's the math. No 6 and 11 is 17.
Speaker 1:She was 12. Isabel will be 11. You completely ruined my joke because you want to stop talking. No, it's all done now. Anyway, he realized he's old yeah.
Speaker 4:The joke was hey, your next stepmom is somewhere right now living her 12-year-old life, and I'm going to meet her in six years when she's 18. And then, Amanda said, yeah, and she'll be 11. Isabel will be 11. Isabel will be 11. Oh shit, and I was like, ah, and she'll be 11. Isabel will be 11. Isabel will be 11. Oh shit, and I was like, ah, you ruined my joke. It's not even funny now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was funny to me Again you can't afford the child support.
Speaker 4:Well, I could afford yours.
Speaker 2:No, because mine gets added.
Speaker 1:We're a package deal. Yeah, if one of us gets paid, the other one gets paid.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure, if she, if she, if you, if she leaves, we're all taking child, we're both taking child support.
Speaker 1:Then he'll be moving into Audrey's shed back there. Yeah, paying lot rent.
Speaker 4:Lot rent.
Speaker 2:And he didn't know how to charge that To us. Know how to charge that to us.
Speaker 4:So you guys are living in my house? Yeah, you should.
Speaker 2:This house has survived three marriages with me and you think I'm leaving, so you two can live here I don't think you can afford to live here and I don't think you could say survived, what do you mean?
Speaker 4:because none of the marriages survived the marriages didn't, but the house did not crumble well, we actually had a really cool visit last week.
Speaker 1:Are we going to share that? Yeah, go ahead. So we were getting ready to leave and we were tinkering outside with the Jeep and the motorcycle and three older gentlemen pull up to the house In their 70s.
Speaker 2:And they're like oh, you're not the one I know.
Speaker 4:You're not the same wife as 12 years ago.
Speaker 1:No, I do get that. I get that occasionally oh, you're the last one looked different, but no, they get out and you know we go up and start talking to them and they grew up in our house. They were the Wilcox boys that grew up in our house Eight children in the house.
Speaker 4:Oh and it was smaller, wasn't it?
Speaker 1:Yep, they were the ones that lived here during the tornado. So they, you know, we spent I mean hell. We probably spent an hour with them at least, walking around talking about how things have changed. What's the same. They told us you know where they had a garden, the one. One gentleman had planted one of our trees that are still back there, one of the huge trees in the backyard. He's like yeah, this is a tree I planted when I was In 1964.
Speaker 4:Yeah, oh, wow, that's awesome. It was cool, it's really cool. Nice, nice guys and super fun trip through history. Yeah, hearing their stories that you know where they spent time in the basement, oh they, yeah, those three families alone, meaning their family, my family and the family before the family before this. So there were eight children. I or the faucets had five and I have six, so we've put 19 children through this house. That's awesome. This house has raised 19 children, 19 children that's crazy, isn't it?
Speaker 4:that's super fun to think about but you know, when you talk about houses and when you talk about possessions and everything like that and this, along with what you were saying, we could talk about houses. And when you talk about possessions and everything like that and this, along with what you were saying, we could talk about this. I could talk about this all day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably could have been its own topic.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but you know there's going to come a time where this house belongs to someone else. Yeah, that we don't even know.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 4:And that I have no idea that we put that in or that you pulled three trees out of the landscaping with your, with the jeep. Yeah, yeah it's. It's just weird how time marches on and they're not going to know that, you know. They're not going to know that three wives lived in this house.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean I mean like they're just going they're just, they're not going to go through peeling off layers of stuff. Why was this house painted 27 times?
Speaker 4:it was redone every time there was a new administration. Yeah, but it is weird to me that you know a friend of mine, his name's Kenny, he, he has. He used to say back a long, long time ago, 100 years, all new people. And it's true, 100 years, all new people. There'll be nobody that remembers us, people will not remember us and you know, in 150 years they won't even really know our kids. So and if you think back, that's not really that long ago I'm 50. You're almost 40. So, with Brayden not being here, we're keeping track of the wheel of punishment. We understand that we are a little behind. Brayden now has to spend twice and somebody else has to spend once. Right, Amanda.
Speaker 1:I think it's you isn't it. No, it's not me. It's me because, you were going to make Denny's special wheel for Amanda. Oh, that's true, that's going to make.
Speaker 4:Denny's special wheel for Amanda. Oh, that's true, that's going to be a good wheel.
Speaker 1:So are we waiting for Brayden to catch up, or do I just have to do mine now?
Speaker 4:No, no, no. We're going to wait, we're going to do it all at one time.
Speaker 1:Well, I think he has to do it in order. He needs to have his punishment doled out before mine. He's a bigger loser.
Speaker 2:He's losing again this week, I think.
Speaker 1:I will still probably have the lowest score, you think, unless I beat you and then a two.
Speaker 4:I won't have the lowest score. You don't think so.
Speaker 1:I think even the lowest score is going to be pretty high For the week.
Speaker 2:So this week no, because Braxton only has 83, anybody know this song?
Speaker 4:I do no, because Braxton Lee is 83. Anybody know this song? I do. I'm coming out. Anybody understand what the significance might be? I want the world to know. Well, you've got some pipes.
Speaker 5:Keep it going. Is this like that's wrong? What's so wrong? It's P Diddy. It is P Diddy.
Speaker 4:Oh, wait a minute, that's not P Diddy.
Speaker 1:It was under P Diddy, under his label.
Speaker 4:Yeah See, I don't know P Diddy all that well.
Speaker 2:It's part of his label. I thought it was Diddy, though.
Speaker 4:I thought it was Diddy too.
Speaker 2:It's Biggie but you can't play that why can't I? I can how about this? Song.
Speaker 4:I don't know what it's called do you know who is singing this song? And you just asked me about this the other day last night.
Speaker 2:This is, oh my bad, uh, this is pdb featuring p on you, p on you r kelly, r kelly, oh p on you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're gonna be sharing the same cell what do you think's gonna happen in that cell? You think anthony richardson's to go in and give some signs For sure. So do you know this song.
Speaker 1:I do. Oh no, this was in my like when Now Into Music CDs were big. This was on one of those. I get every one of those Really.
Speaker 4:So you're well versed on this song.
Speaker 1:When I listened to it I was like 11, so I didn't know what it meant. Listening to these lyrics as an adult now is questionable.
Speaker 5:Oh.
Speaker 4:I have never listened to the words of this song. I'll tell you I don't like it so much Now that everything's gone down, everything makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the music, yeah, some of the music just like oh shit, oh shit.
Speaker 4:Does this make sense to you? Do you hear it? Do you hear the allegations in this song? Yeah, I could, yeah, oh, do it like a man's supposed to?
Speaker 1:That's why I chose you, girl. The person didn't choose him. Yeah, he chose, he chose.
Speaker 4:What do you guys, what do you think of all the charges on the P Diddy front?
Speaker 2:I think Diddy did it, did he did it, did he did it, did he did, did, he did a lot of diddling. He did some diddling.
Speaker 1:Speaking of diddling you said earlier.
Speaker 4:So I don't know. I'm going to say in advance I don't know a lot about this, because I don't follow the hip hop, so I don't follow the hip hop, so I don't.
Speaker 2:It's not even it's crazy because it's not even hip hop, r and B world. I mean, this is bringing much bigger, much big Hollywood just in general, hollywood fully in general. You know, not not everybody. There are people like 50 cent he's, he's always called Diddy out. What is the?
Speaker 1:slightly off topic, but I think it all ties together. What is the like group that it's a conspiracy theory? Are you talking about their name means like light or something like that Illuminati, the Illuminati.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's tied.
Speaker 1:But yes, I do.
Speaker 2:I do Absolutely.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's tied, but yes, I do. I absolutely, if you listen to it. The maybe the Illuminati was what people were discovering that they led to. This conspiracy theory of the Illuminati had a piece of what Diddy was doing in it, I think.
Speaker 2:I think there's bigger people than Diddy. I don't. I don't think he was the ringleader, I just think he was a main host. I just think he Was a main host.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that Hollywood so tell our people, fill us in, for all the people who don't even know who Diddy is, what's going?
Speaker 4:on.
Speaker 2:Well, just give an idea of what Give us a background P Diddy was arrested for sex trafficking. Not just arrested, his house was raided. Yeah, things with sexual, sexual things with minors, I mean I can't remember like Justin Bieber yeah, so he would take.
Speaker 2:So it started with us. Well, it didn't start with us, sure? I mean, it's been happening since 1991. So they say that Diddy groomed Usher and the thing about so it's so it goes so deep and that's why it it. It's so crazy to me because even though you think, oh, there's no way that person could be involved or that person, when you start hearing it you're like, yeah, I could see it.
Speaker 4:Do you think there's any like rush to judgment because of the Epstein stuff? No, you don't think so.
Speaker 2:I don't. I think that he's been doing it for a long time and there are people out there that have been trying to say something. I don't know how many people follow it, but like the Allie Carter person Allie Carter lady, I mean she talks extensively about what she went through when she was in foster care and being I mean, foster cares are part of it. Do you remember that one girl we talked to about how she was sexually assaulted when she was a baby and child and stuff?
Speaker 1:And her dad was a judge or something. Was it one of her? He, her dad, lent her to other people. What? And one of the people are you talking about? Tiffany in Canada? I think so. I think this was a story that I was sharing. That was related to it, though I don't think it's someone we actually talked to. Tiffany was no, I thought I'm pretty sure was abused by her stepdad no, I'm pretty sure we talked to her okay and she was saying that you, you know police.
Speaker 2:I mean, there were judges.
Speaker 1:There were city officials, there were judges that were being she was being given to them.
Speaker 2:Yeah so she could never go and find anybody to help her. And then, finally, I think it was a teacher, maybe, or I don't know, I can't remember.
Speaker 4:I do remember the story now and you're right we did talk to somebody, but that's kind of I think that's kind of what we're we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2:so you think that there was a huge network oh, I think there is a huge network and I think it is part of epstein. I don't think it's being um blown up because of epstein. I think that this is just another player in the game.
Speaker 1:It's's just another piece of the network? Oh yeah, one hundred, I don't know how. To me it'd be very strange. So so, to kind of give background, there are, like I'm reading this is just on Forbes News there are more than 100 sexual abuse victims of combs coming forward, filed seven more. Well, this is the beginning. So that's October 20th. This would have been last year. Um, then he filed another six. There was, I just read, oh, 120. He is representing 120 accusers who plan to file civil lawsuits across multiple states. I don't know how something could be this big, that these parties are existing and these huge names are attending these parties and all of the sex trafficking and abuse and everything like that is going on on such a large scale in multiple different what I have in multiple different rings that are not related. That's what I'm saying. Like how can, how could it be going on so largely inside of Epstein and all of Epstein's people don't know about Diddy's people.
Speaker 2:So that's why I think they're connected, that's why they have to be. Yeah, I think that, whether you, whether they get sold to Diddy, or they get sold to, you know, epstein, or whatever, whoever, ok, so hold on.
Speaker 4:We're saying words like sold Well.
Speaker 3:I'm assuming traffic would apply. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4:So we're using words like sold, and I've always had a hard time. Now, look, don't throw too much hate my way. If you want to, tgcsod at gmailcom.
Speaker 1:Email it to him.
Speaker 5:I'll ignore it like the rest of them.
Speaker 4:But I don't think Bill Cosby needed to drug people to have sex with him. Okay, so now I'm not saying that it didn't happen. I'm saying from my point of view and my perspective. Bill Cosby could stand on stage and say I want to have sex with that girl right there, and more than likely it could happen, especially if he gets them in a situation where he had to drug them to have sex with them. But Pretty comfortable, because have you seen, have you seen Mick Jagger and Steven Tyler?
Speaker 1:and all of these people Act like. I know who these people are.
Speaker 4:The lead singer of Aerosmith Honey and the lead singer of Rolling Stones, you know better.
Speaker 1:You know, better they're not that good looking. They're ugly and they have the pick of the litter everywhere they go Right. If she didn't remember that it happened, I'd be a logjiever. I think they drug people because they can and it keeps them from having to deal with them.
Speaker 4:Boy, that's a stretch.
Speaker 2:Oh no, no, Actually there was a thousand bottles of baby oil found in P Diddy's house, but do you know what it was laced with? I'm going to say this wrong.
Speaker 5:No.
Speaker 2:Yeah, gs, but do you know what it was laced with? I'm gonna say this wrong. No. Yeah, gsb, I think is what they call it. It's the date rape drug.
Speaker 1:Yeah the date break jug. So again, why? Because they don't remember they don't have any recollection of what happened happening or who they were with or who was forced I don't know, because this girl it's harder to believe a victim when they say I don't remember anything. Well, they do remember this girl.
Speaker 2:Ally carter does believe a victim when they say I don't remember anything, well, they do remember this girl. Ally carter does remember a lot. She remembers being drunk. Carter is one of his kids, isn't it? No, no, no, no, okay, sorry, um, she remembers, uh. So okay, I think that you have okay. So I think that there are probably several sex trafficking rings, do I think they could all link up Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Do I think they do. Do you remember when you roofie yourself DK 1969. What, that's a comment. Anyway, continue, oh.
Speaker 4:Man, how much fun would it be to roofie yourself.
Speaker 2:I used to drive with Ambien, I guess no-transcript and um, um, and so she says that you know she was in foster care and the foster care system had part in it. I mean, they would you got to think. And when I I say sell, it's what happens, is they give you an option. And how she explains it is you're laid laid out or you're standing there or whatever, whatever, and these people come and pick them and they buy them. Thank you. He says he likes our channel name. Um, thank you, but they come and they buy these children and it's, there's a spider coming down we'll kill it.
Speaker 2:Thank you do and what she's watched other people do, and when they backtalk, what happens? I think the world is a disgusting place and I think these people just have this power and they like to use it. And it's not always children, it's other people wanting to rise up in the industry and then they realize what they have to do. And the people who have backed away from it are now starting to come out and say, yeah, I didn't want. I mean, I didn't want to go down that road.
Speaker 1:That's why I didn't sign with them.
Speaker 2:Cat Williams. Yeah, he's like I've turned down you know $500,000 or $50,000, whatever, so many times, because I wouldn't how many times would you turn that down?
Speaker 4:because I wouldn't.
Speaker 2:How many times would you turn that down? Did you want me to rub the lotion on the skin? Jams is the ex-wife.
Speaker 1:I am the ex-wife. Yeah, it's the use of power. Exactly, it's the use of power just for the sake of having it.
Speaker 4:Why is my question? Because here's the thing the person that started all of this is ex-girlfriend Cassie, whatever her name is, and Cassie all of this his ex-girlfriend cassie, whatever her name is, and cassie, well, she didn't really. She started. She started the she's.
Speaker 4:she's the one that showed the video from 2016, I think yes and and she was the one and he did beat the piss out of her in a towel in a hallway of a hotel and it was disgusting and he deserves to pay for that. I'm and I'm not. Let me say this I'm not advocating for anything. Puff daddy or p diddy or whatever. I don't give a shit about him also.
Speaker 1:If you have that much money and power, change your name. Well, but he did several times. That's the problem and.
Speaker 4:But this girl is a 10.5 on a scale of one to five. Thanks, dude. She is gorgeous, and what am I? A 12, you're a 50, honey. What do you mean? You don't even have to ask and like. The idea that you can just get her organically or you can go pay for a seven doesn't make sense to me, and maybe that's because I've lived a sheltered life where I, you know, I don't I settle for sixes and sevens?
Speaker 2:No, so here's what I think happens with that is they want to, they want to be a part of this elite group, and they don't realize what it entails until they get in it, and then it's hard getting out and finally, oh well, thank you.
Speaker 4:He said we're both hot. Oh great, Now you're going to get me in trouble.
Speaker 2:Now I'm going to be in trouble for that, because I so, and you know, and she had it and she sued him. There's a lot of people that sign NDAs and a lot of people are saying, now that he's been arrested for it, their NDAs go out the window.
Speaker 4:NDAs are gone anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, federal that was the other thing. Federal government stopped NDA altogether. Didn't know that it's not a thing anymore.
Speaker 4:In my opinion, NDAs shouldn't be able to be, shouldn't be able to go backwards and take them. No-transcript but it's. I also believe if you sign an NDA, you should be bound.
Speaker 1:But I agree because if you, if you make the action, you can choose to not sign it and choose to not take the money, or you know whatever else is being offered.
Speaker 2:But you've got to remember that. Oh man, I don't know.
Speaker 4:They can't have children signing signing in DA's, though, and they can have their power of attorney. But, let's also say this OK, somebody just came out and I'm not going to make this political, so I know you guys won't but somebody just came out and said in 1991, the year before my wife was born, somebody says Donald Trump groped me and now I need that to be out there.
Speaker 1:And now I will pay for it. Why would you believe?
Speaker 4:that? Why would you believe that you waited? Well, the women's voice and being heard. That's why they're doing it.
Speaker 2:Do. I think there's some behind it that are like oh yeah, it's my payday, abso-fucking-lutely Duh. But you have to come with pretty strong evidence of that, I think. And sometimes you don't, which is sad because you can just ruin somebody's life, and sometimes you don't, which is sad, because you can just ruin somebody's life. I mean accusing them of anything, you know, abuse, I mean. We deal with that pretty close, yeah.
Speaker 4:So in preparation for this podcast because I knew Jams wanted to do it I got up early today and watched some documentaries on this from TMZ.
Speaker 1:Yes, we are best friends. Yes, they are.
Speaker 4:That's the point of our and trust me, I live their best friend-dom. Every single day I am subjected to it. Matter of fact, if I die, they're much more than best friends, mm-hmm. So what I've learned is Tick-tock, tick-tock. What do you mean? What's the problem? She talk, talk. What do you mean?
Speaker 1:what's the problem she wants?
Speaker 4:you to hurry up and die this cassie ventura. She's for you to die. God filed a 30 million dollar lawsuit against p diddy, alleging he raped her in 2018 and subjected her to a years-long abusive relationship that included physical abuse and his assertion of complete control over her personal and professional life. Now here's what's crazy and here's what all the legal people are saying they let that get to court and then they settled it the next day. They let it be filed and then they settled.
Speaker 1:Meaning, they just wanted to smear his name.
Speaker 4:All of this. Well, his own attorneys allowed it to get to this point and then settled the next day that if that happened to me, they might have to put somebody on watch, like because you're paying these people crazy amounts of money to defend you, and or was that the strategy because letting that get to court was easier than the fight? Why settle it the next day?
Speaker 1:Again, maybe like letting it get there. Okay, you said your piece. No, now here's your money and shut up.
Speaker 4:They didn't want that. Why pay the money if they're going to get a chance to make their case?
Speaker 2:We live in Indiana, kokomo Indiana.
Speaker 4:Yeah, ruchaville, answering questions. Kokomo, indiana. Yeah, ruchaville, um so answering questions. But that's how the 2016 surveillance video made it out of p diddy, you know, hitting her in that hallway and that really is what unlocked that. That was filed in november of 23, so we're rolling up on a year now, when he went he, he went to jail.
Speaker 2:What do you go to jail for? Wasn't it that? For the elevator thing? Yeah, he went into jail and he had made a video, like had he not gotten out that there were people going down with him, and he did this whole video of naming a bunch of naming a bunch of these famous people, like you're next, you're next, you're next that he was taking them down with him.
Speaker 4:Because one week after Thanks for finding our channel like you're next, you're next, you're next that he was taking them down with him. Mm-hmm, because one week after, thanks for finding our channel. One week after that, an anonymous plaintiff accused Combs and singer-songwriter Erin Hall of raping her and a friend in 1990 or 91 after meeting in an MCA records event in New York, again 1990 or 91.
Speaker 2:It was one of those years they say out of 120 people, there's 20 or 25 of them that were under the were minors and um, and I think a lot of them were like nothing's coming me going.
Speaker 2:So there are some that actually went and filed the reports and nothing was done about it. There are some that didn't because they knew nothing would be done. Allie Carter there were things that she filed. She ended up getting adopted by a woman and she talks about how they've been fighting this since she was adopted and safe, and they're like they're for real, on the run, because they know they're being followed and chased and because she knows too much come about is okay. Now that this is out, now that this is coming to light me too, you know, I know I shouldn't say me too, because that's like a woman's movement.
Speaker 4:It was a whole woman's movement.
Speaker 2:But they're saying, okay, there's enough of us, now we can do something. Maybe we can really.
Speaker 1:Maybe somebody will finally pay attention to us. Yeah, we are all coming forward with the same story, or variations of the same story, I mean there again, there again, and I'm playing devil's advocate. I was gonna say you're.
Speaker 4:I know you're playing devil's advocate, I'm not trying to, because I do think that this can ruin people's lives that are innocent. And I I'm not going to speculate to pddy because I don't know. I do know how I feel about other stories like this, but this particular story I just don't know enough about it to to have an opinion on if I really believe he did it. And people kind of know that it's a. It's an easy money grab to go after somebody that has some money in the bank and if they just want to make it go away, they'll pay you a hundred grand to shut you up. Whether they, whether you did it or not, you're welcome.
Speaker 2:Not you, oh, and so, with all of that being, said I don't think these people are going to end up getting a lot of money. I don't think these people are going to end up getting a lot of money. I don't. I think that I mean there were.
Speaker 1:To me this doesn't Well. It says it's civil, not criminal. So to me that is, it's more after money than it is after criminal charges.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the civil civil can be used To feed a criminal To kind of start this, but I mean just February of this year. I think they have enough in the raid to. Yeah, there was a raid. Talk about the raid a little bit. What did they find?
Speaker 2:A lot of tapes. Have you heard P Diddy's jail call to his son?
Speaker 4:No, tell us about it.
Speaker 2:He's just telling them. He's like hey, has Jay called, which everybody believes is his attorney? They're like no, some people think it's Jay-Z, because Jay-Z is real big in with this, and so is Beyonce, apparently. And he talks about hey, I need you to go and get rid of the rest of the pizza boxes, all the empty pizza boxes, I need you to get rid of them. And boxes, all the empty pizza boxes, I need you to get rid of them. And he's like okay. And he talks about oh God, is pizza box like a synonym for something.
Speaker 2:Yes, a lot of people say it's Wasn't the pizza. What was the symbol about pizza? Children? It's ordering children. Yep, they found tunnels. You know. They say they found tunnels under his mansions. Allie Carter also talks about. The underground world is something you would never believe, like everything that's.
Speaker 4:Okay, so let me ask you this, because you've mentioned the underground tunnels multiple times, so I have a question why? What do you need them for?
Speaker 2:She says it's to yeah, Justin.
Speaker 1:Bieber does know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because he was, he was there. Yeah, she says it's to when they buy trafficked kids. It's to get them from point A to point B without being noticed. It's they have parties down there, they have transportation down there. It's like a whole other world. She says, and um, but do you know the?
Speaker 4:work and the time and the effort that would need. What I asked, what I asked to make tunnels is an undertake these tunnels are under his house and they're so expansive. How does his house not collapse, expect expansive.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean what she's describing. She says it's like a whole city down there. If there's a city underground, and then there's a layer of dirt on top of it, and then there's this big ass, huge mansion, I mean what's holding up the mansion?
Speaker 2:I don't know how it works, I'm just, I'm just saying what, what she has said, she there are tunnels, why?
Speaker 4:Why would it need to be attached to Michael Jackson's house?
Speaker 2:There's tunnel. They said that there were tunnels that led to Hugh Hefner's house, and so right here on Snoops dot com, you know very reliable sources here.
Speaker 4:Actually it's Snopes, right, snopes, whatever Snopes, and that's where you can validate stories. The tunnels were built before the house was built.
Speaker 1:That still doesn't explain to me how the structure works. Maybe my brain just doesn't work very well on architecture. It says the music mongrel and rapper arrested on suspicion.
Speaker 4:Not mongrel.
Speaker 1:Mogul. It does say mogul, not mongrel. That's a dog, same thing Same thing. A suspicion of sex trafficking, racketeering and other charges in mid-September 2024. Law enforcement discovered an underground tunnel in Sean Diddy Combs', los Angeles mansion that connected to the Nearboy Playboy.
Speaker 2:Mansion To the Nearboy, nearby Playboy Mansion.
Speaker 4:But not Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1:There has been no confirmation that such a tunnel exists. However, media coverage of Combs property revealed the home had a pool with an underwater swimming tunnel connected to a grotto. What the fuck is a grotto?
Speaker 4:I think a grotto is like a clubhouse, isn't it?
Speaker 1:I don't know, got no idea.
Speaker 4:I don't know either somebody watching tell us what a grotto is? I don't know alf.
Speaker 2:Yeah, alf will know, but I mean, so there's a lot of theory. I mean, there's a lot of theories. Um, they also believe he's the one that got tupac killed, and but that's been said for a long time.
Speaker 4:So yeah, right here on October 15th of this year, a woman named Ashley Parham, or Parham, filed suit against Combs in a California federal court, claiming she was violently gang raped by Combs and his accomplices in 2018, after she claimed on a FaceTime call with the Bad Boy Records founder that he'd been involved in the 1996 killing of Tupac, which set her up for retaliation? Yeah, so you think he was involved in that? Tupac. Oh yeah, have you always thought that or do you just think that now?
Speaker 1:No, I feel like we've said that before, you've said that before. I never paid attention to the rap.
Speaker 2:I feel like, yeah, because there there was always this bad blood between the two record labels. Yeah, and you know, snoop Dogg will talk about it and 50 Cent will talk about it, and all of that Biggie. So Eminem raps about it. Yeah, biggie, I think that.
Speaker 4:You know Biggie Smalls is who you're talking about. Yeah, P Diddy's mother's maiden name looks to be Smalls.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't, that's breaking news.
Speaker 1:Why is that breaking news?
Speaker 4:Well, because Are they related? Isn't Biggie dead Biggie? Wasn't he killed with Tupac?
Speaker 2:No, Not with.
Speaker 4:I thought it was separate yeah. Oh was it.
Speaker 1:I thought Biggie was killed first and then Tupac was after was shortly after. See now, a lot of people. That's what you just told me. You just watched the thing. This morning.
Speaker 2:Now people think that Tupac is not actually dead and he's going to come back and Do you think he's living in the tunnels?
Speaker 1:Sweet DK. Thanks for you. Pulling in A grotto is a natural or artificial cave that can be used for a variety of purposes. According to Google, Thank you, DK.
Speaker 4:That's See, I was way wrong on that.
Speaker 1:Normally.
Speaker 4:Well, I thought it was like a clubhouse. Alf texted me and asked what the question was. So he's probably looking right now.
Speaker 2:He just missed. So what was I saying? Oh, so they think that he's going to come back. And because do you think, and out him, I don't think he's coming back. He did. I think someone's going to come back. I do who, I don't know. Some people say it's Michael Jackson. Some people say it's Michael Jackson, some people say Michael Jackson's real dead?
Speaker 4:Well, michael Jackson's the most likely, although he's got to be getting old. But Michael Jackson, do you believe Michael Jackson was a pedophile? No, you don't. No, amanda, do you believe Michael Jackson was a pedophile?
Speaker 1:I don't know enough to say one way or another.
Speaker 2:Before I would have. Before I would have.
Speaker 4:What changed your mind?
Speaker 2:Aaron Carter, aaron Carter, I remember him.
Speaker 4:Was he the guy that made the accusations?
Speaker 1:No, no, he was a, he was another, he was Justin Bieber, when I was 13 or maybe 11.
Speaker 2:So he says that Michael Jackson was a safe place for children because of everything going on in Hollywood. And when somebody suspected Michael Jackson of being a child molester, his mom wanted to sell the story and wanted him to say that Michael Jackson hurt him. And he said, mom, I'm not doing this for money, I'm not doing, no, I refuse. And he says that it was a safe place. Um, michael Jackson never took advantage of him. They would ride four wheelers, I think, and you know, it was just a fun place to be. Um, he just loved the kids. He, he wanted them to have a safe place, do I? I don't know if it's true, but that made me change my mind on it.
Speaker 1:Because yeah because, especially when he's coming out and he said my mom told me to make the false accusation to make the money.
Speaker 5:Get some money, yeah.
Speaker 4:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:When get involved in line with the Michael Jackson stories and everybody that came out and she wanted him to do that.
Speaker 2:And he said there's so many other people in Hollywood that actually do that and he wasn't one of them.
Speaker 4:Okay, interesting.
Speaker 2:So, and I also think it all goes along. They say that you know P, diddy and Beyonce. Oh yeah, I can't wait till it goes to court Me either, that Diddy and Beyonce, they killed people Aaliyah, who died in a plane crash, tupac, biggie, michael Jackson they, they say Michael Jackson, even though his doctor had prescribed and given it to him. They say it was them. I do I know if it's true. No, I don't know if it's true. It's all speculation. So they hush everybody up by killing them, or there's a bigger theory paying them off yeah how do you keep them quiet?
Speaker 1:or getting dirt on them there?
Speaker 4:are. There are so many stories out there that I've heard, and not just about this, but about everything, and you know you can't. It's funny. We told you about this. We went to a football game and you weren't there and, jamie, I was sitting behind her and she said sit down here so we can talk. And so I moved down and put my arm around her and said let's get the world talking. And then I said give me a kiss. And she was like no, you're gross. And I said just kidding. And then she kept trying and I said hey, can you please control yourself? Oh my god, public this is embarrassing. But no, I guarantee you, I guarantee you, that little joke that I'm talking about was talked about by someone that I don't even know.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 4:So how do you get people in a room that do these things and they're obviously bad and they don't go out and start a whisper campaign that makes it to the news, to TMZ?
Speaker 1:to somebody Because I think the level of power is so immense. But power makes you talk more, it makes you a bigger piece of conversation, not when so say I mean so he's got control of people's kids. He's got control. He can ruin not just your life but your family's life. You're right. With that kind of power, are you going to talk about it? Well, so if it came to protecting everything else.
Speaker 4:Let me break it down to our little world. Okay, I know I just did, but let me do it again. I have associates that report to me. Okay, now I'm not big timing, but I have 90-ish people that report to me and there are times that you know, I have to remember that what I say matters and I have to remember sometimes, when I communicate with people, hey, they see you as kind of the other half, you're the, you're different, and while I'm not, I just I have to remember, that's the perception, perception is the boss and you know he's doing this, but it also means I have eyes on me all the time, just waiting on me to make a mistake, right?
Speaker 4:So if we take that same logic that I'm talking about, where everybody hangs on every word that you say and they whisper and they talk and the communication is immense as it relates to you personally, if you get a situation like where you are P Diddy and you do these things, I find it impossible, especially maybe you could get away with it for two or three or four or five or six months, but years without people saying it.
Speaker 1:But I think I. But I think the difference is is he doesn't just hold one thing over a group of people. He just like we were talking about we think we're the normal ones and everybody else is kind of off. We're the normal ones and everybody else is kind of off. The people that are suffering this sort of I mean it's abuse, you know, being blackmailed, being threatened, whatever it is that, whatever abuse they are having used against them, they think it's just them. It's not until they get to something bigger, or they're on the other side of it or they're too far in to get out, that they see it's not just them, but it's a lot of people.
Speaker 2:Well, have you heard about the tapes, all the tapes that he has. Well, you said that they raided and got a bunch of tapes About freak offs and a lot of people didn't know that Diddy was filming everything that went on in his house Also if he's filming it.
Speaker 4:how did that not get?
Speaker 1:out Because he films it and then uses against him and so they don't say anything, so that he never shows the film. Let me, let me.
Speaker 2:I mean, this is some of these things that people say that have gone on on some of these tapes or that they've seen being at a party. I mean there's so many celebrities talking about it. When they were like I was, I was out.
Speaker 4:I mean it's crazy so here's just a little snippet on the um on the uh, no, no, no, there's somebody that's a cricket. Um on the freak offs three of diddy's freak offs, which allegedly included women being forced to perform sexual acts for several hours See who's at the door For several hours, were organized just hours after major Hollywood events. The pictures and documents revealed names of celebrity celebrities like Eva Longoria, fergie Ice-T, quincy Jones, paris Hilton, partying until the sun came up at Diddy's MTV Music Awards after party on August 29th 2005. So let's think about that From. We have a visitor.
Speaker 1:I know and I'm trying to concentrate while we do it. She has a very sad story to tell us, she's going to have to tell it.
Speaker 4:So I just, I just don't know how all of those things happen and I don't understand, I don't.
Speaker 1:I agree with your, I see your, I see your side of how it's kept quiet, but I also, I also know, just like just like regular abuse victims. It's pretty common that they have several victims and they never come forward until one of them does Because they think, oh, it just happened to me, I can't tell anybody because there's something wrong with me. We talked to Tiffany Hamlin that we talked to. How long did she stay quiet about it? And it happened to other people and it was happening to her mom before that and her aunt before that and, I believe, somebody else in there or her sister, or hey, if I keep the attention on me and they never get in trouble for me, he's never going to go to my sister. I think it's things like that, that that isolate these incidences and keep them from coming out for such long periods of time.
Speaker 2:I also think it's the fear of losing everything they have.
Speaker 4:But why would you be afraid? As a matter of fact, I would say you have more power because if P Diddy put you in a situation you know just like these women are coming out and making fake accusations why not? Go the other way Say hey, dude, like you forced me to do this, I'm going to. You're either going to pay me now or I'm going public.
Speaker 1:Because he said, because he says who are they going to believe, you or me? You've got these drugs in your system.
Speaker 2:It's a different world. It's a different, it's a. It's a completely different world the way you think of things and the way they think of things no-transcript.
Speaker 1:Everything that you've built your kids will go live in cardboard boxes.
Speaker 2:I think it's the fear of losing that status, not being a part of it, and I think that holds a lot more weight than people realize.
Speaker 1:Than people who don't have status, because to us, if we don't have it, it doesn't mean anything to us, but if we had it, maybe it would be different. We don't have status.
Speaker 4:What were you going to say about freak-offs? Was there something else you were going to add with that?
Speaker 2:That these happen and they don't want this known about them.
Speaker 1:Are we on trouble on TikTok again?
Speaker 4:We've been in trouble on TikTok.
Speaker 2:That they that. Um, oh, I don't want to put it out there that I'm gay, or I don't want people to know I'm cheating on my wife, or I don't want people to know that I like little kids, or I don't want people to know I mean Jesus. They shouldn't know that, that I like little kids. Or I don't want people to know I mean Jesus, they shouldn't know that. Right, but that's what I'm saying. Is the dirt they have on, the dirt that he has on other people. You know, I don't want anybody to know my crazy kinks. I don't want it's.
Speaker 1:I won't be able to. I won't get a record anymore. My career will be ruined If you, I don't have any money coming in, so then what am I going to do?
Speaker 2:Really look into it and if you did more research it it would blow your. It blows my mind I it's. It's crazy to me. I'm just waiting to see who's all a part of it and you know, I think we lose sight of the victims.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say now our listener, dk, brought up we can't wait till the court date to see how many names are going to come out. I bet we don't get any names. Oh no, none, that matter, we don't get any any new names. He might bring up people that are gone, or people that are no longer in the game anymore, or no longer a big figurehead. I don't think you'll get any names. I bet this gets brushed under the rug and snubbed out in a jail cell like Epstein did.
Speaker 4:Oh, you think he's going to be killed? Yeah, maybe no way. Yeah, it's way too high profile.
Speaker 2:So is Epstein. It's way too high profile, so is Epstein Not really, I mean he was, and I also don't think that every um, I don't think that every person in hollywood that had that went to some of his parties were part of this or knew what was going on. I really don't. I think that, um, it's always been a thing, but everybody kind of looks the other way to stay out of it I have.
Speaker 4:I watched an interview with him today with ellen degeneres yeah where she was asking about these and he was you know. Well, did you catch?
Speaker 1:Are you really talking in?
Speaker 4:the microphone with your mouth full of Reese cup. Maybe we're going to give you a second to finish that. Reese cup.
Speaker 1:It is. It was a Reese cup I could just swallow. So she was. She actually, like, made the comment oh, I know what happens at your parties and to me. I read her body language, as I want no part of that. Did you see that, or no?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I saw it and I thought she was being coy. I don't think she was being, I don't think she was saying I think she was acknowledging the sex and stuff like that. But I don't necessarily believe that. You know she was buying in and saying all of that stuff is happening. There's no way Ellen DeGeneres didn't didn't have information that there were children involved.
Speaker 1:No way. No, no, I don't think she did. I just think she knew about the sex party. You've heard it.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of people. It's got to sound.
Speaker 1:It's got to sound fun to get people to come.
Speaker 2:So Will Smith is a big, big name that's being Dropped. Yes, I don't know if anybody knows this, but his son came out and said that he pretty much offered, him offered his son up to Diddy, and a lot of people do this for more fame or longer fame or more money.
Speaker 4:But why would? Why would Will Smith need more fame?
Speaker 2:I don't. I don't know why it's done.
Speaker 1:Why does anybody need their second million.
Speaker 2:What, or so you know. It's like Kat Williams said you know I'm offered, you know, 50 grand to put on a dress. I'm not putting on a dress Cause I don't. I don't need it that bad need it that bad?
Speaker 4:I don't want. I don't want to. I can make it on my own. You know these people put on dress. You have to pay me another fifty thousand to take it off.
Speaker 2:Well, it's just that it's like I don't know. You got to watch the Cat Williams interview that he does. I think his name is Shea Club Shea got to watch that interview. It's very interesting. I mean, he, flat out he, and I believe it started. It really started coming to attention when Cat Williams came out and said everything.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there have been a lot of people saying I've been talking about this for years.
Speaker 1:I've been a lot of people saying the Ali Carter saying I've been trying to get I've. I've been saying this for years and I'm just now getting traction. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think it's because people don't want to believe it. I mean, I think the things I've heard about with Smith, holy shit. When Jaden came out and said that is that he was sold to Diddy or whatever I mean to me that's like, oh my God you're, you're sickening people. And then it's he was caught with another man in one of Diddy's rooms on camera. He's one of the freak off.
Speaker 2:Will Smith was being pounded by I mean, that's what the words that this person used and by another man, and while he's married to Jada, obviously, and he's got kids, and yeah, it's, it's a nasty little ring.
Speaker 4:And I really, I truly believe it. I believe none of this is true. I'm going on record.
Speaker 2:People do say that it is to distract you from something else coming up, but I think that I do think it's true, I think he's.
Speaker 4:I think he's done some. I think he's probably got some kinky lifestyles that he's into.
Speaker 1:I think he's doing that Like R Kelly, peeing on people.
Speaker 4:Yes, I think that shit's out there everywhere.
Speaker 2:There are people that have you need to watch Allie Carter's interview. I mean she goes into stories about how one of their black parties are more black children on the tables and they're naked and they will sometimes put food on their bodies and people will come and try the food off of them and then pick them for sexual activities They'll talk about. She talks about how you there were times you were forced to sleep with what people would watch you sleep with animals and you were forced to and then when you, when she threw up, her face was rubbed in it.
Speaker 4:And now that type stuff, not the kids laying on tables having food eaten off of them. I don't believe that in a group full of activists. But I'm not saying it couldn't happen, I'm just saying the likelihood seems small to me. It just seems small and again, I know so little about it. I'm not committing one way or the other, 100%, I'm just saying a preponderance of the evidence to me says probably not, you got to watch it. I think I will do some more studying.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying a preponderance of the evidence to me says probably not, you got to watch it.
Speaker 4:I think I will do some more studying. But you know what, speaking of studying, is there anything else you'd like to say to button up the P Diddy?
Speaker 2:No, I think that we need to come back to it when more comes out. We will We'll follow it. I think you really need to do your research on it.
Speaker 4:I'm still watching.
Speaker 2:There's a few more.
Speaker 4:There are a few more episodes on the documentary I think it's going to be really big when 50 cents documentary comes out.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it has come out yet, I'm excited. No, I didn't know he was doing one. Yeah, oh boy, that sounds like riveting entertainment oh, it's about all this it's gonna be a little bit on that note.
Speaker 4:Be dancing the whole time. Let's save some relationships you wanna. Definitely it's the most wonderful time Of this goddamn podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeehaw, did you really think this was going to be a feel-good segment, are you?
Speaker 1:insane like me. Welcome to Relationship Advice with Ams and Jams. Well, you asked for our advice. We just hope you're ready for brutal honesty.
Speaker 4:And brutal it shall be. Oh my God, is it brutal. This first one's a doozy, so strap in Dear Ams and Jams. So this is probably a weird one, but here goes. A year ago, my husband of a decade had a catastrophic heart event and died. Oh God, I was devastated and traumatized. It was completely unexpected and shockingly quick. I'm sorry, but that's not why I'm here. I've done my grieving, gone through therapy. As a matter of fact, I'm still there, and while I have my bad days, I am living my life. However, his dad asked to have his custom-built computer, to which I said, of course, since they were both computer guys. But then I remembered he told me he had saved porn, including risque photos I sent to him over the years on his personal Dropbox. Yes, this was a what the fuck moment. I am not sure why he couldn't just watch porn like the rest of us. So I needed to go in and cancel the account.
Speaker 4:That's when I found it. Oh no, interspersed with standard porn images he pulled from online were tons of photos of some of my big breastbreasted friends. He clearly saved from their Facebooks my friends, not his or ours which means he went to my Facebook to get to theirs. Next to that, a few screen grabs from a Zoom happy hour we sometimes had with friends, a few screen grabs of, again, one of our larger chested friends in a tank top and, by the way, she was clearly oblivious. This photo happened and just chatting in the zoom. When they were taken, some of these photos were older and some newer. These women obviously didn't know he had these photos, let alone that he was masturbating to them.
Speaker 4:I feel traumatized all over again and frankly, I'm disgusted. To be clear, I was never against porn or masturbation. We had what I thought was a strong marriage with a decent sex life, at least a few times a week. The thing that is hardest for me is that one, he's met these women in person. These are close friends, not some abstract porn construct. And two, objectifying them like this feels so wrong. Since they did not consent, I find myself distancing myself from these girlfriends because I am so grossed out by what I found and feel like I can't face them. He used to tell me he found me attractive and liked my smaller chest, but I feel lied to, lied to for an entire decade. This doesn't jive with the standup feminist women have bodily autonomy. Consent is crucial.
Speaker 4:Guy that I thought I knew he was. It kind of feels like I didn't know him at all, if that makes sense. I recently started dating someone and know my confidence and trust has taken a hit. He tells me I'm sexy and beautiful and in my mind I'm like yeah, that's what the last guy said. I'm a little turned off by that line. The last guy's your dead husband. So ams and jams. I guess my question is how do I move past this and not allow it to color my good memories? How do I forgive someone who is dead and can't ever explain or apologize? How do I rebuild my ability to trust in a relationship? Well, I would have that one girls.
Speaker 1:I would start in therapy. Sounds like you're there. Yeah, we're probably not, not the kind and gentle hearted listeners that you need to be talking to, but I will say this guy's only been dead a year, so what's that mean? She's married. Yeah, she's dating. That's where I kind of thought this was going. But any who let, she's already dating. Yeah, she's dating. That's where I kind of thought this was going. But anywho, let's not cast stones. Hey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, please. No, I think I didn't have to be dead he clearly.
Speaker 1:I mean he talked to you about his porn stash on his computer and said hey, if I die, don't delete this before anybody sees it. So he obviously was comfortable with you seeing what was in there, which makes me think. Maybe he thought he was going to delete that shit first. Maybe he didn't think that you didn't know or that you wouldn't care, that he didn't see it any differently. I'm not trying to excuse it. I see it as differently and I agree that taking pictures of other people's boobs without them knowing is gross. But how is that any different than staring at said boobs Like I think he's dead and you just need to forget about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm agreeing on that and I don't think he thought it was a big deal Because there's nothing you can do to change it. There's not.
Speaker 1:You can't have a conversation with him about it or make him see that it was wrong? Yeah, he clearly didn't think it was wrong because he did it. And he didn't care, so he's gone, move on.
Speaker 2:Nobody's the same.
Speaker 4:And everybody's, nobody's perfect Right.
Speaker 2:So if he, if he had these little kinks, I mean it's like big boobs, but he just didn't like them on you, but that doesn't mean you know the next guy's the same way and that you shouldn't believe.
Speaker 1:Look, denny used to like big boobs and now he has me, and he doesn't want me to change them.
Speaker 4:I do not. I like them just the way they are.
Speaker 1:So that doesn't mean that you should have. You can show the listeners if you want to. No, there's nothing to show. That's the point. That doesn't mean you should have confidence issues. I think your issues going into a new relationship are that your husband of 10 years just died.
Speaker 4:And you're already on to another relationship.
Speaker 1:On to a new dating. That to me is a little confusing, but you know, to each their own.
Speaker 4:And Jams is okay with it.
Speaker 2:I mean To each their own. Yeah, what are you going is okay with it.
Speaker 4:I mean to each theorem yeah, how long would you wait? Oh, uh, probably longer than a year. How long would you wait? Never liar, uh, dear amson jams back in 2021 actually right I started dating my boyfriend I'm not going to another venus afterwards about six months into our relationship, we were invited to my friend's lake house for a fourth of july party I'm sorry, I'm four weeks into the relationship, got it yes, back in 2021, are you clear?
Speaker 4:yep, all right to provide some backstory. The year prior before I met my boyfriend, it was the height of covid and I was spending a lot of time with these friends. What?
Speaker 1:Jamie's boobs are substantially larger than mine.
Speaker 4:They're huge. They started off as my sister's friends.
Speaker 4:Have a look. They started off as my sister's friends and I started getting invited to get to get togethers and during the pandemic, we were all out of work and we decided to hang out at a camp, or hang out at camp a ton, and stay in our own little pod. Everyone in the group was in relationships or marriages, except for myself and one of the other members of our group I remember this is pre-boyfriend. This is a year ago, the entire summer of 2020, we all hung out together at the lake having game nights, bonfires, etc. Eventually, one thing led to another Bada, boom, bada, bing you know what happened.
Speaker 4:No, it's just everybody.
Speaker 1:Everybody was in a couple, except for the two people we were the only two single people in the group.
Speaker 4:And it's not like any public spaces were open due to the pandemic. So we just agreed to keep it, this casual thing. It only lasted a few weeks and after a while, well, it fizzled out. By the beginning of 2021, I met my boyfriend and we started dating Back to the invite of the 4th of July party. We got invited and agreed to go, but I started thinking about how I felt like I should be honest with my boyfriend about my past, with the guy who would actually be at this party. That way he could decide if he even wanted to go or not, because I would never force him to go to something he wasn't comfortable. I would just go by myself again. Try it one more time.
Speaker 4:Also, I wanted to be upfront and honest with my boyfriend because I worried someone from the group might get drunk and say something stupid and I'd rather my boyfriend know the truth from me ahead of time to avoid the awkwardness. That's smart. So a few days before the party I sat down with him and let him know that the prior summer I had a casual fling with one of the guys from that friend group and he, in fact, would be there. Me and that friend had no weird vibes. I wasn't worried about seeing him or anything, but I wanted my boyfriend to know and make his own decision if he was comfortable or not.
Speaker 4:Because if it were me in that situation and my boyfriend asked me to an event where someone he hooked up with previously, I might not be up to go. When I first told him, he was totally fine, he thanked me for telling him and being honest to still go to the and he was fine just going to the party. Then a day later, well, he changed his mind and said he wasn't comfortable at all. He started shaming me for having casual sex. He said he didn't understand how I could just do that without romantic feelings involved. He honestly made me feel like shit about the whole thing. I immediately regretted even telling him about something that had happened before we ever met Ams and jams. Should I have not been honest with my boyfriend about someone I hooked up with before we met?
Speaker 1:I think he should be your ex-boyfriend. You've been together four weeks, yeah, and he's already shaming you about having, for having, about sex. Are you guys already? How can you do that without what? Was it emotional ties? What the? What was the exact wording?
Speaker 4:uh, hold on I am the devil's advocate on this one. Once again. I he sees her as this girl that he's involved with, and the idea that she's just out banging dudes because she's passing the time. I could see where that could go to character.
Speaker 1:Maybe a little right so if he doesn't like it, bounce like. You guys clearly are not going to be compatible. I'm going to save you the heartache go and hook up with summer boyfriend. See if it's just as good as it was last time, maybe make it last longer. Seriously, this relationship is not going to work. If this is how it's starting, move on.
Speaker 2:It's dumb, he's dumb. Don't, first off, never be shamed for the things that you decide to do. I don't know about never. No, I mean, we all have a past.
Speaker 1:I mean don't be shamed for your sexual choices, maybe because that's just a part of who you are and who you've grown to be. If they don't like it, maybe you can grow together out of it.
Speaker 4:I guess what we're just saying is everybody can be whores.
Speaker 2:Hey, sir, four weeks. Why is she a whore? Because she had casual sex.
Speaker 4:Because she had casual sex.
Speaker 1:How many times have you had casual sex? We're not talking about me, okay. So is the dude's girlfriend going to be like, oh, that's so gross. You just had casual sex with someone. How can you do that? No, double standard. Gotta go, takes two to tango, and yet we only judge the female.
Speaker 2:My current fiance is a one-night stand. Was supposed to be a one-night stand.
Speaker 4:My current fiance was supposed to be.
Speaker 2:Well yeah, he was my next victim. Sorry, Caleb.
Speaker 4:Dear Ames and Jams, my boyfriend and I have been together since 2017. Breakup we have two kids together.
Speaker 1:We moved into my mom's house in 2021 so we could save up for an apartment, save up for an apartment.
Speaker 4:Basically he works and I stay home with the kids. He doesn't really help out too much with the kids, but I appreciate that he works Monday through Friday to get us whatever we need, that he works.
Speaker 1:Monday through Friday to get us whatever we need. So he does adulty things, got it.
Speaker 4:Yesterday I took our kids to get candy for Halloween Adulty things. I asked him if he wanted to join. He declined so he said he would go to his dad's house. While I took the kids, I left at 6 pm and came back home around 8 and my boyfriend still wasn't home.
Speaker 1:Why the fuck did it take you two hours to go get candy?
Speaker 4:So I started to call and text him and he wasn't answering me. I asked his dad if he was still over at his house, but his dad said no. To shorten the story, he was at the club with a cousin of his. He had his phone on. People go to clubs still.
Speaker 4:I guess this has got to be somewhere else he had his phone on dnd do not disturb, I'm guessing yes the whole night, although I did call a couple of times. He answered one of my calls by accident. I tried to overhear if there was any women with him. I did hear a middle-aged woman's voice. Someone tell me what a middle-aged woman's voice sounds?
Speaker 1:like, like me and Jams. Hello.
Speaker 4:Hi, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a problem, it's me. I did end up hearing. I did hear the. I did hear a middle-aged woman's voice. He ended up coming home at 5 30 in the morning, drunk. I answered the door like an idiot. He came in and laid in bed. I noticed that he had glitter on his face and he smelled like women's perfume.
Speaker 1:Those were from boobs at a strip club, which is totally okay that's the only time women actually have glitter on them.
Speaker 4:I asked him about it and he said I was overreacting, did you say that's? Okay.
Speaker 2:He did say, that was okay.
Speaker 4:That morning at 10.30 am, my mom came up to our room to confront him.
Speaker 1:Wait time out. Didn't he go to his dad's house, which is the same house, or is it not the same house? It sounds to me like maybe mom and dad are. They live with her. Mom Got it.
Speaker 4:I guess someone sent her a picture of him and some middle aged woman together. He was hugging her from behind. That's never good, nope. They also said he was making out with her in the line to get in the club. He denied everything, even though there was proof. I am I just am confused because I literally don't have a dime to my name.
Speaker 1:Turns out you don't need one. You're living with your mom.
Speaker 4:Why do you need? Why are you confused? Because you don't have a dime to your name.
Speaker 1:I feel you. How is she going to support the kids if she doesn't have a job? He?
Speaker 4:made the money. I don't have a job. He made the money. I don't have a job. I have the kids. I feel like I want to forgive him, even though he hasn't apologized.
Speaker 2:No, you just want the security blanket.
Speaker 4:He ran off somewhere when my mother was confronting him, so I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1:He ran off to his middle aged.
Speaker 4:He hasn't texted me to talk to me. I've seen he's online. I just have zero idea what to do ams or jams. Any tips you guys are?
Speaker 1:married right file for divorce, get child support your mom, get the kids in daycare and get a job sounds pretty simple to me, are we?
Speaker 4:I mean, has she seen the pictures? Does it matter? Is that okay behavior? Is it bad behavior?
Speaker 1:I mean, it's not my behavior but is it bad behavior just disappearing to a club until 5 30 in the morning? You know what you're okay with it, cool, I'll see you tomorrow morning. I would definitely open the door, by the way, I'm going to my parents, by the way and then I'm not there. You okay with, we're good, I'm not saying I would do it. What if I came back with glitter?
Speaker 4:You might come back with glitter all over your face. That's the problem. That's the problem. It's you. So I don't know, I don't think we're getting all the story on this one.
Speaker 2:Well, she just wants her security blanket. You need to leave them.
Speaker 1:It on this one. Well, she just wants her security blanket. You need to leave them. It sucks to start over. She doesn't even sound that upset about it Like you guys clearly have a kind of platonic relationship.
Speaker 4:Why is?
Speaker 5:the mother confronting.
Speaker 1:Maybe it was one of her friends. She had other people sending her pictures of him doing these things. People she knew saw him out.
Speaker 4:That's how not giving a fuck he was. You think? An old boy was banging one of her friends.
Speaker 1:Maybe he's banging the mom too.
Speaker 2:And she's like how you doing this to me, I don't know. You need to leave.
Speaker 4:We gotta get out of this one. It's time to talk about one thing I love. Jams, give us one thing you love, one thing you hate.
Speaker 2:I hate working on Monday mornings.
Speaker 4:You and me both.
Speaker 1:But if it wasn't Monday mornings, Tuesday mornings would feel the same I know I hate working every morning.
Speaker 2:I hate working.
Speaker 4:If you only had to work Tuesday and Wednesday, would it change? No, would you still hate Tuesday mornings then?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 4:Interesting.
Speaker 2:No, because I know that there's a means to an end, just like right around the corner.
Speaker 1:There is.
Speaker 2:Monday through Friday. Oh yeah, but, oh God, but I love money.
Speaker 4:There you go. They go hand in hand. Ams Something you love, something you hate.
Speaker 1:I love trips through history, like we shared the gentleman that came to our house and told us about growing up here in the tornado and how it was rebuilt and whose room was whose and how. It's weird that the layout is and some of the rooms in the places are the exact same, and how their dining room is now where our dining room is, but we changed it to that and we thought we were being innovative and that's the way it was to begin with.
Speaker 1:And I, what do I hate? I hate fine arts. That class blows. You're having trouble, are you? Yeah, you want to come listen to some. Do you know what a mass and a motet are? It's all.
Speaker 4:Catholic music. I can feel you for them.
Speaker 1:And it was 30 minutes.
Speaker 4:One song.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what I love. That's what it sounds like. I love change. Do you? I do? You do not like change? No well, Some change. I like change that you've chosen and articulated and looked at every single angle of.
Speaker 4:I like that change. I can tell you that I hate pushing the wrong button. I'll tell you what I hate. I hate change. Wait a minute. Hey, don't change podcasts. Listen to us. Head over to TGCSOD at gmailcom. Send us an email or you can go to ThankGodCancerSavedOurDivorcecom. More about us there. Y'all crazy bitch. Oh, and Chico lives D-I-V-O-R-C. You gotta fight.
Speaker 5:Aye Aye.
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Speaker 4:TGC SOD Correct, that's weird. That actually kind of lines up it does. We'll take it, thanks.