My Wife, My Ex-Wife, and ME!
Imagine a groundbreaking podcast where your current wife and your ex-wife share a mic. In this captivating podcast, Denny takes center stage as he navigates conversations with Jamie, his ex-wife, and Amanda, his present wife, using nothing but a microphone to untangle the complexities of their intertwined lives. Together, they explore the challenges and triumphs of parenting, tackling sensitive subjects such as divorce, co-parenting, and the emotional journey of overcoming cancer while cheering on their shared daughter, Audrey. Throughout the episodes, our trio courageously confronts the realities of their relationships, discussing adoption, the dynamics of blended families, and the sometimes turbulent waters of step-parenting. This podcast invites listeners into an authentic dialogue about life and family, emphasizing the theme of "parenting without excuses." With humor, honesty, and heartfelt insight, Denny, Jamie, and Amanda offer a refreshing perspective on what it truly means to support one another as co-parents and navigate the complexities of modern family life.
My Wife, My Ex-Wife, and ME!
Kyla and Lyle from the Podcast "Beyond Brave"
This episode explores grief, resilience, and the importance of sharing stories after loss. Lyle and Kyla open up about their journey following the passing of their daughter, Bella, and how they are keeping her memory alive through their podcast and social media.
• Discussing the impact of the holiday season on mental health
• Jams shares her struggles with illness during the holidays
• Lyle and Kyla's experiences during Bella's medical journey
• The significance of humor and legacy in coping with grief
• Exploring the Bella Brave project and its mission
• Navigating relationships while grieving
• Listener questions and reflections on personal experiences
I'm Amanda, the wife, and I'm Jams, the ex-wife, and I'm Brayden just the future.
Speaker 3:Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Denny Broins. I'm the only man dumb enough to get his wife and ex-wife in a studio to do a podcast. And here it is my wife, my ex-wife and me.
Speaker 5:That peace and happiness might be found there. You gave me hope and now. Now we have to say goodbye. Ouch, if there's any bitches in this room.
Speaker 6:Then there's something I gotta say For all the fools who fell for the first Girl who comes their way way.
Speaker 3:I've been down that road and now I'm back sitting on square one one trying to pick myself up where I started from my Wife, my Ex-Wife and Me. Starts now. Starts right now. Welcome to this week's edition of my Wife, my Ex-Wife and Me. My name is Denny Bruins. I'll be your host for this evening. We've got a whole bunch of stuff going on in the Every Joke has a Little Truth studio, but we shall persevere. What do we have going on? Jams is hacking up a lung. She's about half here. She did smack her face. You are just staring at me intently sometimes I'm trying to figure it all um, listen, you can't get mad at me coughing.
Speaker 2:I can't help it he got mad at me coughing all the time I know it's bullshit well, that's because and now you're leaned back enjoying a nice ice that's for you. Set your drink on so it stops banging on the table just those little things.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to cool down my throat.
Speaker 3:Is your throat hot?
Speaker 1:I've been coughing.
Speaker 3:How about talking into your mic?
Speaker 1:I've been coughing. Yeah, it's warm.
Speaker 3:Did you just check the temperature of your throat?
Speaker 2:With your finger. Like you can't feel your throat just as it sits.
Speaker 3:You need to clear your throat with your finger, like you can't feel your throat, just as you need to clear your throat. Speaking of throats, can we just get all of this figured? Out what is wrong with me let's do some introductions, shall we, before I lose my mind? I'm ready. Let's do jams first.
Speaker 3:There's no brayden this week, but in a minute we have a very special guest, very special very special guest so let's, let's not waste any more time and, by the way, that guest is going to be here for the entire podcast once we get through this part so hurry up. Oh I'll hurt. Oh no, let me tell you, let's hurry. And hurrying to my left, it's my ex-wife, jams Hello.
Speaker 1:How are you doing today? You know, I don't know what's going on with me. I've been taking vitamins a lot, but I still seem to I caught a cold, I guess. Yeah, Well, that's awfully rude.
Speaker 3:I know All of the time you've spent trying to. You can't have more than one thing going on. I need to take the chat off of your screen.
Speaker 2:You need to blow it up full screen, cause someone said happy holidays you old horse Rude, that is normal. White guy Go horse, rude, normal white guy go away.
Speaker 3:That is so. Let me say this we are broadcasting on Twitch, on YouTube, on Facebook, on Twitter or X, formerly known as Twitter, that's such a strange name.
Speaker 2:I know it's just a letter. I don't like it and I think he has a son named X, really. As well Like a whole son. But it's also not spelled X Like a whole son, not a half a son.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, you might still talk into your mic tonight. I am.
Speaker 5:Oh, I don't football this week. I don't have a song to sing. We have the same time say they don't believe. Man, excuse me, while I get into my feelings for a second, usually I keep it down, but today I gotta tell it.
Speaker 5:Not that anybody gives a fuck anyway, but everybody talking shit probably sucks anyway, Y'all don't even know how I feel I don't even know how I deal Today. I really hate everybody and that's just me being real. Yeah, monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday bad bitches have bad days too. Friday, saturday, sunday bounce back, hot, bad bitch, always do. All I really want to hear is it'll be okay, bounce back because a bad bitch can have bad days.
Speaker 3:Well, honey, it's the holiday season. Have you bounced back?
Speaker 2:No, it's still. We're still surviving holiday season.
Speaker 3:Oh, we're in the midst of trying to survive.
Speaker 2:Trying and I've realized today like I just gave up my kids. I have 23 to four year olds in my classroom.
Speaker 3:I think there's a joke in there somewhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they, they all know that it's Christmas.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:And that it was Friday today and they were just like losing their little all day and I said you know what, go ahead, just don't hurt anybody, we'll be all right.
Speaker 3:Everybody, everybody's going to be fine.
Speaker 2:Order and the teaching and things that we're supposed to be doing. We'll just survive today.
Speaker 3:Doesn't matter, it's Christmas season. I think more teachers need to look at life that way.
Speaker 2:I think they do, I think a lot of them do.
Speaker 3:I don't know if you noticed or not, but our older children did absolutely no schoolwork this week. When I was in school, some 600 years ago, we didn't do school.
Speaker 2:Back when you had to write on stone tablets and stuff.
Speaker 3:Yep, that's right, it wasn't quite that long ago. But you know, this week usually we do an interview for this portion of the show, but today it's going to be a little different. We're going to have guests that are going to stay with us, and these guests are special. One has been on multiple times. We haven't decided.
Speaker 3:If it's four or it's either four or five five time returning more than three, more than three, but less than six, so let's either four or five. Now there's two people on this week. Lyle do we have any tissues? Is going to be on and he's been on the show, but more of a technical guy helping set things up. You remember that one time when we had one uh, an episode and we had to completely reschedule.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because we couldn't get the sound figured out and it was something I just needed to flip a button, I think and I figured that out the next day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean that's happened a couple of times.
Speaker 3:I'm so sorry, here let's get the nose blowing. Real good on.
Speaker 2:ASMR.
Speaker 3:I'm just before they shut their camera off and leave. I'm just before before they shut their camera off and leave. On the podcast this week is Lyle and Kyla.
Speaker 5:Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3:They hear us the whole time. They could hear us the whole time, and I'm really sad about the whole thing, but this is Lyle and Kyla, and I'm going to call her by her real name for almost all of the podcast, even though she still calls me Danny sometimes. I just think she should just call you Danny. Well, you know what it's whatever. One time we had an entire text conversation and she thought she was talking to someone named Danny.
Speaker 6:But, what I would like to know is uh, what's our theme song?
Speaker 4:you guys all had a theme song I think I just want to make this. It was great.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I like the bad bitch one there have been so many theme songs and I do, and people always say, why do you do introductions every single week? I do them because I liken it to when I was a kid, I loved wrestling and when kids or kids, when wrestlers would walk down the ramp and get ready to get into the ring, they always played their music, so you always knew who it was. That's what I've likened this to with with the three co -hosts that I have.
Speaker 2:It does get like my mind ready. Oh, now I actually have to listen and pay attention.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but then she doesn't, so figure that out.
Speaker 1:Happy holidays, you old whores.
Speaker 3:What they're talking about there, lyle and Kyla, is we can see we get some chatter on YouTube and there was someone had sent a message that just said happy Holidays, you old whores.
Speaker 2:In all caps. They're shouting at us.
Speaker 4:And you don't know them, we don't know them.
Speaker 2:No, it's from YouTube. There's a lot of weird commenters.
Speaker 3:It's the keyboard warrior thing, right? People just show up and do what they want. They stay positive. They stay positive.
Speaker 3:They stay positive. That's right. So I'm going to move you guys to the top, because that's where you should be, and let's get started with talking to you about Beyond Brave Full disclosure. This is like worlds colliding for me, because I kind of help with beyond brave and here we are on this podcast. That is really bad, and Lyle and Kyla should not even be on this, but they're kind enough to give us their time. So, lyle, I'm going to start with you, because you, you are the butt of a few jokes on Instagram.
Speaker 5:Why I'm going to let him explain it.
Speaker 3:OK, all I saw was was Kyla went out on Instagram and she was cackling at the beginning of the video. This is one of the times where I should have probably had that queued up and ready, but it it was just um, we needed to get Lyle more followers. Okay, no, I, I too, have been there, where we still are. I, I, kyla has power beyond power with social media and she goes and she was like, hey, we need to help Lyle get his. What did you have at the time?
Speaker 4:Three I have seven, seven. I had seven followers. I was pretty desperate at that point, so I really did go seeking the assistance of my wife.
Speaker 1:How many do you have now?
Speaker 6:The video I made where I was like Lyle I'm going to put this on my story video, I'm going to post it he literally when he pops in the screen, that was literally him popping in with excitement, to be like Desperation, so funny.
Speaker 3:That's what I loved about it, though, is it was authentic and it was real, because I could tell by looking at it that he was really just walking by and he was like hey, what's going on? Yeah, I could use it. It was. It was really great. How many followers do you have now?
Speaker 4:I'm up to like thirty five hundred. It's not I'm not quite Tyler's level, yet I get more messages than I can keep up with.
Speaker 3:Really Wow. What kind, of, what kind of questions do you get?
Speaker 4:Um, maybe they're not even questions, mostly just comments. Like you know, keep your chin up, Don't listen to her. You know all the haters, like Kyla. You know the trolls out there, like my wife.
Speaker 3:So, um, let's, let's start with you. You know beyond brave as a podcast everybody that follows our show knows that that you know kyla came on our show. Man, it must have been what? 2021 was the first time yeah, oh boy, yeah, wow yeah, so it's.
Speaker 3:It's been a long time and that's crazy, yep. At the time, um, I was scrolling on tiktok and ran across a video that kyla was doing with their daughter, bella, and I the number of followers kyla had at the time I thought, well, I'm going to take a shot in the dark and I'm going to send a message and if, if she responds, great, if she doesn't, at least I tried and she responded. And then she agreed to actually come on the podcast and I was like, oh, you should probably listen first.
Speaker 4:And maybe I'm not anymore.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, she, she, she actually came on the show and since then we've had, you know, multiple opportunities to have her on the podcast, and I'm actually proud to say now that this is Lyle's first guest appearance on a podcast that's not his own, so thank you for that, lyle we get to be the ones fit into my schedule.
Speaker 1:Pretty hectic, but things around and get on here you gotta answer all those followers, so I completely understand that's right, that's right, if you need help with that.
Speaker 3:I can definitely take care of you on that well, help answer his mail.
Speaker 2:His fan mail yes yeah, I can. I'm really good at that because I don't have any to answer. Yeah, yeah, the only thing I the only thing mail his fan mail. Yes, yeah, I can. I'm really good at that because, I don't have any answers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah the only thing I, the only thing I answer over here is like relationship-based questions, and I really just take those and put them together. Um, they're not even really to me either.
Speaker 2:I get nothing over here you answer them just because you think the advice that we give is bad.
Speaker 3:That's because it is no. So, anyway, we have, you know, we've had a chance to get to know Kyla and we got to know Bella. And then you know, let's tell the story, let's go back in time a little bit and just catch up everyone bit and just catch up everyone um kyla, and let's talk about, you know, when you got the call about bella being able to get the transplant that you guys have been waiting on for years and fighting for, and all of that, can you, can you kind of take us through that journey and get us to, um, you know, get us to where we are to, to where we started with the podcast. Would you mind kind of telling that story?
Speaker 6:Yeah, for sure I think it would have been.
Speaker 6:I mean 2020,. Bella was listed to listed for her bowel transplant in 2020. That's when her doctors, her team of doctors that she had been with from birth, were like, okay, she's in bowel failure, we need to get her assessed. And they said, yep, she's going to need a bowel transplant. And that was 2020. And I ironically that, like I had been on Instagram and Facebook and blogging for like years by now and my Instagram wasn't anything huge, it was just I had my medical mom community from living in hospital. But 2020 was when I decided to jump on the TikTok train and our TikTok started. You know we had like viral videos and whatnot, and I would say by the end of 2020, beginning of 2021 is when our Tik TOK reached a million followers. We had some just one of our videos at the very beginning, when we started, tik TOK went viral and then from there it grew and I think that's that's around when you might've seen our video and then invited me on your podcast. It's since then. It's on your podcast.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's. Since then it's been us and Ryan Reynolds, if all of you are excited. So, yeah, yeah, and you know you were, you've always been so kind with sharing your time and your story and I guess, if we're, if we're moving from that point on to Beyond Brave, you, you've, you guys, have shared some really high and low moments and you've kept your you, you've kept your faith, you've kept your same disposition. You're the same. You know, you're the same person that I met years ago and you know, even through those highs and lows, the Beyond Brave project and what motivated you to do that, what have you gotten from it and what do you expect? Where do you expect this to take you, you know, through through your entire journey. I know that's kind of a segmented question but, if you can, if I, if I didn't make that hard enough to answer.
Speaker 1:Well, you're giving her a lot to answer.
Speaker 6:So take us there please please, yeah, we, you know, it's always been a part of the reason why. The reason why I share from the beginning was, you know, to help other people, to help other families like ours. Bella and I lived in so much isolation in the hospital and social media was really our only chance to help others understand and have that connection with not only our family and friends but other people that were going through the same thing and we would gain strength from them and they would gain strength from us and help each other through. And that's been my drive and what I've taught Bella to be her drive for socials. And when, when her her persona kind of took over TikTok, that was all her, that was she. You know she was the producer and the editor of all of our TikToks.
Speaker 6:I knew in the back of my head to like this it like before we knew, not before we knew, but you know, before Bella had passed away, I'd always had in the back of my head like this isn't going to be forever. Like this the social media is not going to be forever. So let's have fun with it. Let's not make it something that we need, let's not make it something that we rely on. Let's just make it fun, and so I taught that with Bella and that was our goal. I always wanted to do a podcast. I thought that was great. We just never. We always had so much on the go with our other socials that it just never was able to happen. Uh, while bella was alive and I I feel like, after her passing with what lyle and I want to do with carrying on her, on her legacy with our, our bella brave project, that this would be a perfect platform to do that with yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4:Well, we found we weren't sure what we were gonna, yeah, how we were gonna handle it, but it's totally been, you know, therapeutic. We're only five episodes in right now and so far, we look forward to, you know, recording every single one of them. Um, there's no shortage of things to talk about and people to talk to in the future.
Speaker 6:Uh, so it's been, you know, really rewarding experience so far and it's so different being able to share on a podcast platform because every other platform is so short-formed. This is where we can say what we want as long as we want, whereas the other ones it was more uh, focused and quick and short and it's not, it's a bad way to put it, but it's pretty superficial, it's just the surface and it doesn't get into.
Speaker 4:You know, after she passed away, like that's not something that you can talk about in short form. Yeah, yeah, it made. It's really helpful to do this yeah, yeah, so you're finding it.
Speaker 3:If, at the risk of putting words in your mouth, you're finding it somewhat therapeutic and, you know, almost like therapy, yeah, like its own therapy, would that be fair to say?
Speaker 6:Yeah, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 3:And from my perspective, in you know, the small part that I've had and you know I'm a fan first, and I feel like I'm just get to be the first guy to see the podcasts and you know, just to pump the brakes here a minute and talk about that, watching, watching you to interact through the podcasts has been, you know, through the podcasts has been, you know, really inspiring to me as well, because you know I've watched, I've watched you guys, you know, talk about some very, very tough subject matter and you know you guys, you guys stay there for a minute. You talk about it. You've cried and watching you two be there for each other has also been really, really cool to watch. I, I, I struggle. I want to say fun to watch because it I find it it's inspiring.
Speaker 2:It is inspiring, yeah, and that's how I've always felt.
Speaker 4:And we don't want to be painful Right.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, look it's. I think. I think if you were going to say, hey, watch these two parents that have recently lost a child.
Speaker 4:I think people would be like oh, I don't know if I want to listen to that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, but you guys have done a great job of of pulling that together and making it informative and and having a good time. It informative and and having a good time I mean you guys, you that's what I was getting ready to say is you go from you know heavy subject matter in and then you lighten it up almost effortlessly and I can tell you and that comes a lot through through Kyla's preparation, I mean each week. For those of you that haven't watched the video, if you episode five hasn't released yet, right, that comes out this week. But if you haven't watched, like Kyla doing her preparation and she sits with her notebook or iPad or phone or whatever she's got, and then Lyle just sits off to the side. He was like, yeah, we're going to keep doing it this way and you know it's some of the most fun I've had.
Speaker 2:So it's like if somebody were to watch us, where you've got this entire agenda in your head. This is how this is going to go, and we're going to talk about this for this long and we're going to move on here and then Jamie and I come in and say no, we're not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're not doing any of that because I want to point out, like before this, you're like, you guys have to talk too. Yes, he hasn't shut up.
Speaker 3:Well, I look, I try to get you to talk no.
Speaker 2:And then you say make sure you don't interrupt okay, when are we supposed to talk then?
Speaker 1:because the only person talking is you. I'm just trying to figure it out like you know kyla, she is laughing uncontrollably like you guys are all in the same room, right?
Speaker 4:yeah, we are. Oh man, that's so much pressure on you. Oh I, I just see you just getting it both ways right now that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:This is my life.
Speaker 4:Anything to add to this?
Speaker 3:like are you gonna harp on?
Speaker 4:them too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I'm just yes, tell us what you just are for a guy.
Speaker 4:I just I see you on an island alone right now.
Speaker 3:I gotta jump in and try to thank you, thank you because, I gotta be honest, I thought at the beginning, you were gonna leave me to swim, while that's the feeling I got well, I really feel like he's trying to paddle to you with like a single stick paddle it wasn't even broad at the bottom, it was just like a.
Speaker 3:It was just one stick just a little tube, yeah so you know what's one thing, what's one experience that you guys have had during the podcast that let me ask you this way L Lyle, you are, you're new to podcasting, you're kind of new to the spotlight, because Kyla was, kyla was the medical mom, kyla was right there with Bella and you know, front and center. Where was your kind of moment that says, oh, people are looking at me oh man, I I was never that comfortable in the camera trying to act.
Speaker 4:It was just not well in me it's not that we would ever.
Speaker 6:It's not that bella and I would ever want you to act. You just didn't even want to be in the background, and then if bella was like, come on, dad, and like, do this or do that, you're like no, I would definitely do it for her, but also, I think what even got you remotely a little bit interested is the fact that, like the first like two years of Bella and I being like quote unquote, famous online, is that there are so many people that ask me if Bella had a dad.
Speaker 4:I thought it made better content with me not being on top of everything. She's also like a lonely single mom.
Speaker 2:He's trying to get you the sympathy, sympathy votes for that.
Speaker 6:That's right, that's awesome no, no, I'll be in the background.
Speaker 4:I don't know when did I?
Speaker 6:I still don't think I really enjoy the you did a couple TikToks with Bella that she loved and you like you really shone, yeah.
Speaker 4:I thought so I don't mind. I like the praise. That was always nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4:The podcast definitely suits me more than the videos or anything like that. Yeah.
Speaker 6:I would get the big like fine If I needed them to be the content or whatever.
Speaker 4:Yesterday you were filming something. I was like I'm like I have it already.
Speaker 6:It's so easy for you. Just listen to what I have to say. When we were, when we were doing the content for my Mick cafe and RMHC promo yeah, that was the one that we just did, that I just posted about and you were like is that the one where you're in the bed, where you're in bed?
Speaker 3:Is that the one where you're in bed and he takes your jacket?
Speaker 4:Yeah, oh yeah, I don't even think I saw it, I just he's like, yeah, I don't want to watch it. My Instagram. I don't get her stuff on it. It doesn't come across too often. We definitely have different algorithms. Oh, do we? I have buddies that I'll swear like. I don't think I've ever. I've always had to go look for kyla's stuff. It doesn't get sent.
Speaker 4:Wow, that's funny interesting well your content isn't what I'm normally looking at on socials, no, but like we, collaborate on, like every one of your five posts, and I always tag you.
Speaker 6:You'd think Instagram would be like oh, they're connected, I should throw more at them.
Speaker 4:It just goes against everything else that I've just watched.
Speaker 2:He's not really interested in seeing that. We'll just pass through it.
Speaker 4:This has nothing to do with Barstool Sports.
Speaker 3:That's exactly right.
Speaker 6:Barstool Sports comes across my Insta all the time.
Speaker 4:Yeah well, you're an anomaly.
Speaker 1:You're an anomaly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're getting like the extra that's left over. It comes through but you're not really watching it, right? Yeah, yeah, it's there, but it's just kind of like your content on his. He'll see it, but it just flows right on by, just keep it moving, how you doing, keep it moving, kind of thing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's right, yeah, yeah. But I found, I guess, with the podcast that we started and I talked about that on the last episode too, when we were talking about, okay, how do you talk to grieving parents, and that sort of thing I, bella, is my favorite subject to talk about I mean, it's a good thing we started podcasts, so, and it's just been fun for doing that. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so that's a natural question that I was actually going to get to. So, thank you, I think you said something that's important to be heard. Bella is my favorite subject and I too. When, when you guys were recording last and I was listening, I I found myself listening so intently to that because you did talk very freely about you know, hey, it's we need to hear her name, we want to remember and think about, and I think there's a a a natural human instinct. It feels like, at least from my point of view, where, oh, I probably shouldn't bring that up because it's a sore subject. I don't want to upset them, but, like you guys said, you you would prefer that that people continue to to talk and say her name. Is that right?
Speaker 6:Yeah, and I'd even I'd add to that and say like it's been not a struggle in my mind, but it's been on my mind since you know, of course, since she's passed. It's just like how do I, how do I keep going with my socials? Because so much of her is like a part of me, in a sense, that it's like typically or I would think typically that people who suffer such grief as loss of their, their loved one or their daughter, they just want to shut down and shut out and be like nobody matters anymore. Don't talk to me, don't look at me, I don't want to see you, I'm going to stay at home, whereas for me I'm number one. I'm not like that as a person, but number two to me.
Speaker 6:That would mean like just losing everything that she worked so hard for. You know, the bravery she shared, and like the joy that she shared, her legacy in some way that you know, just shutting down and shutting off would be like literally like shutting off the lights and like, okay, it's done, whereas I don't. I don't think that'd be fair to her. You know, I want to carry it on. Um, it's not work. It's something like we want. Like you say, it's your favorite subject. Yes, I want to continue sharing stories about Bella and sharing online, and it's not work for me, it's not not tiresome for us, it's it's like a need, because I don't want to. I don't want to just shut off and shut down and then not talk to people anymore.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I think there's a bit of a responsibility, or, you know, when we see our, our parents, bella's grandparents, grieving along with us and there's, she has a huge network, a huge community. That, yeah, we put it out there and then they poured their hearts back to us. So there's a little bit of of connect still wanting to connect that way, and you know these people they're grieving too.
Speaker 6:Yeah, yeah, exactly yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they. They supported us all along the way, you know, by buying merch watching videos coming out to see us when coming up to us, when they saw us out, and about that. So we, we like to do that too with them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, incredible and you get all this, all this content to look back on and you know what I mean and remember, and that's, that's awesome. I mean you, just you taped your time together and that's yeah, you know that, I think that's an under to watch some of the old content.
Speaker 4:I haven't quite woven and watched a lot of stuff. I can't quite get there, but I really want to exactly and it's like, okay, when can I get there?
Speaker 3:do you? Do you try little bits at a time? Do you try? Or you just say I'm not ready yet. I'll come back to it.
Speaker 6:Lala and I are yeah, lala is Lala and I are kind of opposite in that because we've had such different experiences, right Like I've had to be in it with Bella 24-7 in the hospital.
Speaker 6:So I have a lot of that trauma ingrained in my memory and I've been so frustrated with how it's been overtaking my, my thoughts that for me I'm so thankful I have so much video of her and just even the texts she would send me, texts and stuff that I've never shared with people. It's just when she's texting me, when I would walk to the wrong house or not, I have her calling me and saying I love you, mom, or just different things I've never shared, and I have that to listen to on repeat. When these negative, traumatic scenarios are the ones that decide they are going to keep playing over and over my head, I can put those away when I go over her videos and watch them over and over again and listen to her talk and and look at her smile and laugh, whereas for a while it's a little harder because it's it's just different. I don't think you have, like no, the trauma going over.
Speaker 4:I don't know. I don't. I have all just beautiful memories, but then it's just, it's just hard to watch those things or even like and fathom our old text conversation. I, I wouldn't be able to do that. Yeah, but not well, but not yet. Yeah, no, amanda.
Speaker 3:Amanda keeps trying to get a question in. I wouldn't be able to do that. Yeah, yeah, but not Well, but not yet. Yeah, yeah, no, amanda. Amanda keeps trying to get a question in, and then I'm trying to give her a chance.
Speaker 2:It's really not even a question.
Speaker 2:I just I just want to say, like, what has always drawn me to you, kyla, you know, when we first talked was your kind of.
Speaker 2:The message that you had shared is you know, I'm sharing and I'm putting all this out here. I'm putting us out here to help everybody that's in the medical community and, of course, you know, bella's Bella story is to be brave and to continue to fight and to continue on, and you shared that with everyone so that people could see that and use that as inspiration in their own lives. And now, even after she has passed, you guys are still continuing to do that in a way that I never could. You know I'm one of those introvert people that would shut down, but through your sharing and I've listened to you know, I've listened to your episodes and, of course, um, as Denny's with you guys while you're recording, and it's incredible to see how you're working through things and something I could never imagine being a grieving parent, that would be. I mean, that's hugely inspiring and you're a resource to people that are trying to figure out how to find their own way.
Speaker 4:I'm like you too. I just went into a dark corner and just I mean I was yeah, I couldn't go out in public, that sort of stuff and Kyla really did help push me out of my shell as well.
Speaker 6:Yeah, If I, if we're, if we're being like fully transparent. There's a time there where I was really worried, I was really scared about you right after and I knew from just with my experience with so much support with my mental health nurse and like um, PTSD recovery support, that I had a lot of the tools in my toolbox and it just kind of seeing the way you react and having the experience I've had in, in a weird way I was not I don't know if there's a better word than numb to it but I had the resources and energy to recognize okay, this is how it affects someone in Lyle's position. This is scary. How can I help him? Him, and because I wasn't in the shutdown mode, I could see and help it, see that he was and help him what would you do to me?
Speaker 4:you saw it I'm monitored you were monitoring my activities.
Speaker 6:I don't know.
Speaker 6:I was really worried around here well, I mean when, when you like. Of course, there's like so many things to be scared of when people have such traumatic trauma in their life, right, they? I'm scared for someone, that how the depression is going to affect them physically, mentally, how that stress is going to affect someone. Um, I was scared that you. It might affect you in ways that I've never been affected and I wouldn't know how to help you. So I was just kind of like watching and trying to learn and be like, oh, what do I?
Speaker 6:do like you needed that right then. But but that's that. That's honestly the state I was in, because I was, I was really nervous with how things affected you because you needed me.
Speaker 3:Hold me yeah, I mean they. It's weird because they always say you know when, if the airplane's going down, you got to put the mask on yourself first, you know, so you can take care of others around you. And, um, I think in this case, kyla just recognized hey, I, I've got a. I've got to kind of keep an eye open and be the strong one in this until which point it's your turn. And you know, do you feel like that? Do you feel like that has come? Do you feel like you've met that? Have you?
Speaker 6:Oh yeah, like that. For me that would have been like where Lyle had the mask on first and helping me. That was probably two or three years ago when I was. I was anxiety, crippling anxiety, uh the it was to the point where I couldn't leave, I couldn't be alone. I couldn't leave the house, I couldn't drive a vehicle. There was multiple times I had to call Lyle from his office at work downtown because I was frozen in the vehicle at a red light and I couldn't, like I thought it was going to black out, faint, die.
Speaker 6:It was bad it was so bad I was scared to leave the house alone, I was scared to be alone, I was scared to drive and I was going through. You know multiple conversations with my doctor about anti-anxiety medication and you know what do I need versus? Am I dying?
Speaker 6:it was PTSD it was PTSD complex medical PTSD and Lyle was like holding oxygen mask on me for a couple years until I was on the right medication, until I could actually get out of that, and that was like for me that was, you know it. I'd been through so much trauma with Bella and it was kind of like at a point where she was actually doing good and I think my body was like okay, it's time. You've been holding on for six plus years now. You're gonna feel the result of that and it was just like something happened and I couldn't function literally, physically, mentally, nothing, yeah.
Speaker 3:With that being said, because I've never heard that story and we never got, we never went to that. I thought that. I thought that I'd heard most of your stories like that, so thank you for sharing that, how, with with that story being told, how do you feel like you're holding up so well now?
Speaker 6:I am. I am blown away with how well I'm doing because I'm actually able to work with my pharmacist and my doctor. Now to like wean myself off the anti-anxiety meds, but um.
Speaker 6:I am like I literally like every day now the fact that I can get up and drive myself into town to go get groceries or take Waylon somewhere without the fact that I can just do that, blows my mind every day, cause there was a time where that was debilitatingly fearful for me and I couldn't function. There was times where I couldn't like standing doing my hair in the morning with my. I would be five minutes in and I was so exhausted I actually needed to sit down and either stop everything and lay down or like sit down to do my hair, cause I was. I felt like my heart was beating on my chest. I felt like I was either going to faint that's why I couldn't stand. I was scared that I was going to like just fall over and die Like basically it was, so it was fear.
Speaker 4:The timing was so odd, though, because Bella was doing so good at that point. So, like you just explaining there, where you think it was just okay now, you're just reacting now finally to that. Yeah, I mean, why now are you not that way? I think as well. Yeah, the medication helped along that way.
Speaker 6:Exposure therapy maybe Cause I was like I. I was the type of person that I love driving. I love driving my car, I love going places, I love doing things and having fun and going out. And it was, it was absolutely not me. I was like scared out of my mind, out of my body. It was, that was not me and I was so frustrated that it had such a grip on me. So, yeah, like it, just like it blows my mind that I can's gone, like it's gone, and I think that, yeah, like the exposure therapy, like you had to work, I had to get the kids to school because this was before, you know, bella couldn't take the bus, so I'm driving her in and out of school and Waylon in and out of school. And like the kids couldn't you know they needed me to drive them, or I needed to get into town to see my mom and help her out, or like there's places I needed to go and I wasn't just gonna like sit at home and crumble yeah so I did it anyway and I started listening to, like anxiety podcasts and like I don't know if you guys know anxiety Josh he has a podcast
Speaker 6:he, I just remember like searching and just trying to find tools to help myself and that was one of the. I listened to that and he has um, like actual medical, like sound advice that really helped and I just did it like, even if it meant driving into town completely scared out of my mind. Driving anxiety is like a thing, is something I learned on this podcast, but, um, that was like the main point of when I was like I mean, yeah, it was either. If I was home alone, I would. There was times when, like Lyle was like gone for work and so I'd literally be calling my dad and being and my dad would have to drop everything he's doing at work and drive out to see me, because I was in tears and scared and the kids were at school and I just couldn't be alone.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, Do you from an outside looking in? Do you think some of that is from you know you said that was during a time when things were going good with Bella. Do you think it was really the fear of okay, when is when? Is everything going to fall apart again? And now you don't really have that weight? Do you think there's a difference in that?
Speaker 6:I uh, yeah, a little bit. I'm. I'm still, I'm still confused. What really caused what? Because I mean a lot of people from the outside looking in would almost think it was like hypochondria too. I had my doctor do every medical test he could think of because I was very certain that there was something wrong with my heart. And so anytime stress, caffeine, anxiety would cause my heart to palpitate, I would get so stressed out that I would freeze, or I would get so stressed out that I I would freeze or I would feel like I was going to blackout, and then that would make my heart rate increase and my heart rate I'd be sitting here like I am right now, and my heart rate would be like one 50, one 90. Like it was some stupid. Yeah, yeah, I actually drove myself one point to the emergency and I the park job. I mean I should have took a picture of it afterwards, but Lyle was actually admitted with Bella and she was in, I forget, and I was going to sleep at home and get some rest because she was in our local hospital and I Lyle's like, okay, I'll take this shift with her at the hospital, you go home and get some rest.
Speaker 6:So it was like the morning after I've been alone all night, which was another thing that was really, really difficult for me. But I made it through the night and I woke up and the first thing I did was okay, I need to get back to the hospital to see how they're doing. I'll go in and bring a coffee. And I remember this was like driving. Anxiety was like in full force. And so I am on my way to the hospital. I barely make it there and, if I could describe it, it's like you're driving and your, your heart's beating out of your chest and your vision is blurring and you feel like you're going to have. It feels like you're going to faint, and then the stress of knowing that you would faint while you're behind the wheel makes things worse, and so you get this blurry vision. I literally think I lost vision about like half a block from the hospital.
Speaker 6:So when I parked at the ER, I, I, I, I came back out to my car, like I had the keys on the. I just checked the keys on the seat. I left my door open and I ran into the ER and I said. I said there's something wrong with me, my husband and my daughter upstairs, but I am here for me because I can't breathe and I remember they took my blood pressure and it was. I forget the way the numbers work. What is it normally? One 20 over 80. I was one 55 over 95.
Speaker 6:Oh man and they like oh, they took it twice, it was worse the second time too. And they like yeah, it was crazy. I forget where I was going with that story, but that was just another like that's how bad it was. Just another like that's how bad it was.
Speaker 4:So you probably just should have stayed at the hospital with me.
Speaker 6:I was there for a while. I didn't actually get a chance to see you guys for a while because I was in the ER with myself. We were just chilling.
Speaker 2:You guys are just fine. Wait, not your coffee.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm really thirsty. Where's she bring me a drink with? She's got to be here eventually. This right here, though. What just happened is the magic of your podcast? Absolutely, it really is, Because, like Kyle is telling this heavy story, and you know, my blood pressure was through the roof and I was in the ER and Kyle's like, or Lyle's like, were you ever going to bring my coffee?
Speaker 5:You know were you ever going to bring my coffee?
Speaker 3:You know but I think that's also. You know, the three of us talked a lot about our daughter, audrey, and how we made a decision to. You know, use humor and try and keep it as relaxed as we possibly could, even in the hardest of times, and I'm in no way trying to compare our story to yours. But you know, from our perspective, we really feel like that helped and I and I kind of feel like you guys have made that type of decision as well, whether it be a conscious decision or unconscious, that, hey, there's gotta be some humor in this. You know in our lives that we have to fall back on. We can't just be, you know, negative and sad all of the time. Do you do you guys, do you feel like that's true and did you make a conscious decision to handle it that way?
Speaker 6:I think that's always been us.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I've always been inappropriate. It never was something I had to really try to work at.
Speaker 3:That took me a minute while I got to tell you that caught me off guard and I'm so glad.
Speaker 2:I don't know why you two have remained as like a 12-year-old all the way up until 50.
Speaker 4:Yes, that is true, and I have found a kindred spirit up north, so he is very similar and I have appreciated every time yeah yeah, I don't think it's been conscious, I think because, I mean, when we had bella, uh, yeah, you could certainly get, uh, go the other way with with everything that was going on in our lives, but, um, because it was so long and we had so many highs and lows that, yeah, we just became pretty numb to things and and hardened right, and so it it was exposure and yeah, it's like why aren't you reeling right now? It's like that's kind of just the same same thing that we've been going through. We can't just, you know, abandon our lives and and our and our.
Speaker 6:You know who we are, yeah and kind of the same thing with bella is. It's like from day one I, I had this little human that was just fighting for her life. I can't add to that a mom that is absent or depressed or can't function. She, she needed me and I needed her and I wanted to make things light for her and happy for her.
Speaker 6:And when I really knew within the first year, like, oh, this is going to be a long haul in hospital, I was scared. I didn't want her to. I didn't want her to be the typical okay, a kid in hospital. They're gonna have learning difficulties, they're gonna have depression, this and that and all the. I was like she's got enough causing her to fight for her life. I'm not gonna let anything else add to that. So I was really like, learned a real darn good poker face and did everything I could to make her world as like bright and happy as it could be. And of course now with Waylon, our six year old, I mean Bella gave us so much strength to live a life like that that even if, even if it wasn't for that, there's no way I want to darken my son's life with depression as well you know what I mean like to just fall into something deep like that, even though I would.
Speaker 6:I very well could. I've every right to. I lost my daughter, but I have a son who is vibrant and strong and I don't want to dampen his days well.
Speaker 4:I mean it's not like you really have a choice, but I mean, yeah, you have the right frame of mind to to go with and you're, yeah, you were practically a therapy clown for 10 years yeah, yeah, so I I was actually going to get to waylon next, so I'm glad, I'm glad you brought him up.
Speaker 3:How has, how has he adjusted since bell's passing and you know, how is he adjusting to having mom and dad around all of the time, as opposed to, you know like it was before and you know kind of talk us through what changes he's kind of went through since, since July he's been so good at letting us like from the beginning, like okay, guys, you're too much.
Speaker 4:Like oh, we had to make a huge adjustment. I remember that we had to have a talk about it, like we are overwhelming this kid and it's like I got a checkout. I'm you, handle him.
Speaker 6:We definitely were overwhelmed we were overwhelming to the point where, like we'd be sitting down for supper and he's like love, like with love or discipline or anything.
Speaker 6:Mostly love. But he would be like I'm going to need you guys to stop talking and asking me questions. And we're like, oh, and then now it's gotten to the point where it's like, okay, we realize we're overwhelming him and he knows that, we know that, he knows, and so he'll be like he'll just he won't even say a full sentence anymore, he's just like too many questions because he'll get over it. We're like how are you? How's your day? What did you do? We missed you. And it's both of us like and he's like no, and he's only six.
Speaker 2:It's like I need a minute to to process you guys are gonna have to back off a little give me some space you guys just spend six hours in a grade one classroom, yeah, back off.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think he, as far as what, bella's death, how he handled all that, it was slow, like we were coached quite a bit, not not coached, but we had gotten a lot of advice from the hospitals about how to approach it with him and to be pretty blunt about it and leave no room for miscommunication, or you know these thoughts where, okay, am I going, like is is bella like gone forever in this life? And and yeah, we had to make it really crystal clear that he's not gonna see her here anymore. Um, and I guess it's hard because you have to tell that to yourself, it's hard, yeah because there is.
Speaker 6:He was five at the time. So it's like if I have a friend who works with the police on child services cases in Toronto and so she's got a lot of experience with this and she gave us some really good advice that matched with what Bella's medical team had told us for Waylon, and it's just it. We had time to prepare because he was back home with grandma and grandpa and we had. We had time before we came home to be like okay, how are we going to do this? And we needed to talk about it, because there's so much risk in saying something. As you want to just like hold them because they're going, you have to deliver the most painful news. At the same time, comfort them and you can't sugarcoat it with like it's okay, like she's in heaven, okay, well, a five-year-old can be like okay, well, where's heaven, how do I get there, how long is she there for? And then all these other things that could be confusing to them that you'd have to try and answer. No, you need to be blunt.
Speaker 4:They are gone, they are you know you won't see them you won't see them.
Speaker 6:She died like these words that you have to use. And there was another conversation around that that we needed to prepare ourselves for for him. Do you remember what that was? It was how, it was how she died. We could well. We decided, we thought like and I confirmed it with them, and it's just like very good point, you can't say she was really sick, because then that could give him fear and be like cause. That's a common word.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know you're sick, you have a cold. You know your friend at school isn't here today because they're sick.
Speaker 6:Yeah, and then what?
Speaker 4:That's one thing I wouldn't have thought of. Yeah.
Speaker 6:She had. You know, the doctor said it was a very rare disease. Like we had to be like this, it was.
Speaker 4:She died from her disease.
Speaker 6:From a disease, a rare disease, the doctors told us and be very specific with it. So it's something that he doesn't commonly hear.
Speaker 3:Yeah, See, I see I would have struggled with that. I am the one that I am quick, to Jamie's credit with Audrey. You know she wanted to be very blunt and I was like, no, we're not going to be blunt, that's she's, you know, four years old. Why am I going to be blunt to her? And you know, it turns out she was right and that goes right in line with what you guys are saying. Just be upfront and honest and sometimes your adult mind can trick you into believing that that's not the right way to handle the adolescent mind or the, you know, the little child mind, look at kids and realize they're.
Speaker 2:They're people and they have processing skills. They just may not be as developed as ours are, but you still have to. You know they're still going to make connections and have those fears and that worry in their own train of thought, so you have to be very in line. I mean it's I work at a daycare, so the things that I hear kids come in and say like ah, your mom and dad said something to you that you completely processed a different way.
Speaker 5:What you were supposed to.
Speaker 2:That's not what they meant, so here let's rephrase it and it's. It is crazy how their little minds will.
Speaker 4:We had to give them. We could not be vague, because you can't predict what they're going to do with that information. It's not going to be what you expect and that's what really helped us with him, with him and, uh, he's still like, slowly come, he's coming along, he he processed it very maturely, I think, for a five-year-old at the time and now six he, he had good questions about it.
Speaker 4:He did ask did it hurt all those things right away, right, I mean well, yeah, it was, it was a hard day, but yeah, it was really hard we came home and he's just so used to her being in hospital.
Speaker 6:So when we came we didn't come home, we went to your parents and so when we first got there, you know your brother was there in his family yeah or his wife, sorry. And then, uh, you know your mom and dad and after a few hours he asked where's bella it wasn't until bedtime right, yeah because he's just so used to her being in hospital.
Speaker 6:He was like, oh, she's. He's like, oh, is she like she? He was before bedtime. He's like mom, is bella at the hospital alone right now? Like you guys are here and bella's not here, like wait, is she? And so that's his first little spark of like kind of like wait where where is bella?
Speaker 4:because I don't know what. What our plan was. We were maybe going to wait a day, but or wait for him to bring it up I wanted to wait for him to bring it up yeah, so it was then yeah, I just wanted to wait before I had to rip that band-aid off as long as I could and nobody's. He was five, and so we I think, yeah, yeah, quite like you would with a five-year old. He was next day, he was playing, right.
Speaker 6:It's not something that he was really carrying around like he went through a lot of emotions really rapidly that night. Yes, like extreme sorrow and sadness and then angry, and then back to extreme sorrow and then questioning, and then, are you sure, then testing, and then back to just complete like sorrow yeah and did completely.
Speaker 3:I want to sidebar for one second did. Did you guys experience the anger phase?
Speaker 6:yes, uh, no, I I haven't and I I think that's because I've been in it with the medical team like in depth from day one, and I think you know there was we, just I I guess, if I could word it correctly, we had world-renowned specialists beside me talking to me every single day. If there was an inkling of doubt in my mind, they were there to answer that question right away, like I had. I was by her side the whole time. So I like there wasn't I, there wasn't anything for me to be angry about and so much of her life was we were.
Speaker 4:It's. It's just sadness. No, I would say I was saying, like most of her life, I, I think we are. Every day that we got was just, you know, extra time that we got with her. There was so many moments that we could have lost her. So we're, you know, we were living on borrowed time with her and it just felt like we were, we were grateful for all that extra time, that we got the whole time with her, and it just felt like we were grateful for all that extra time that we got the whole time. And then it's it's part knowing that also, just our faith has really helped us. Yeah, you know, um, when I talked to the priest there that one day yeah, the days she passed, and you know, he said you, you can go two ways with this and you can go, you can get really angry. Um, I said I don't think that's, that's not something I want to do at all, and so it took commitment to not to not go in that place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's hard not to go to the anger phase like yeah just ah like yeah, that's a unique perspective, though, that it's a choice you can. You can choose to go down that path that leads to anger. You can choose to to stay on the more positive side. I've never thought of it that way, yeah yeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 3:I mean it is, it is intentional. Like you, you, you have a decision, you fork in the road. How am I going to handle it? And you know when you're doing, when you're handling it for others as well, a la whalen, you know you, you kind of have to be careful of that and that, but you know you guys have a master class. Uh, in my opinion, from from what I'm seeing, um, you know it's commendable. How do you guys, how, how do you guys handlelon with? I mean, she had such a big personality and so many you know, she was so creative and I'm sure those things are still front and center at the house and that's not going to change. Even the castle out back. You know how, how is he handling with that? And how are you guys handling with that? Are you guys, are you able?
Speaker 4:to handle that. Everything's a tribute to her. We love the house, like her room is kind of the way it was. It's such a nice castle, all that stuff and photos everywhere. Everything was just want to keep those memories alive as much as possible. Waylon's funny, weird things will just remind him of Bella and he'll he'll break down emotionally. It's, it's, it's quite sweet, like we'll hear a sad song on the radio and he'll just all out of nowhere just start crying and say it's because it just reminds him of bella I had to change my alarm on my cell phone.
Speaker 4:No way was your. Oh yeah, your alarm, my alarm was.
Speaker 6:My alarm is like ding, ding, ding, I don't know. It's like a sad little melancholy tune that wakes me up in the morning and I changed it the other day because the one I had was like two, like like it was crazy, and so I changed it this soft, like little, like melancholy, like twinkle in the morning and I it goes off and I hear Waylon sobbing in his bedroom and so I run to his bedroom and I'm like he's full-on sobbing and I'm like honey, what happened? And he's like your alarm made me sad because it made me think of Bella.
Speaker 6:Oh, I'm just sobbing and I'm like okay, buddy, I'll change that.
Speaker 4:Like sorry, like oh, it's kind of sweet, because without those moments you don't see as much um out of a six-year-old boy, sure, yeah I'm sure it's good that he's able to you know, process those things and let it out.
Speaker 2:otherwise you know how do you, how else do you know process those things and let it out. Otherwise, you know how do you, how else do you know how they're doing Right?
Speaker 4:That's exactly it, you're right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and have you, I know you know on your podcast beyond brave you you spoke about you know when you were in Las Vegas you could see. You know you had some signs. Has Waylon had or mentioned any signs?
Speaker 6:had some signs? Has Waylon had or mentioned any signs? No, uh, he hasn't had any dreams. He just he's constantly talking about memories, but he hasn't said anything like um, anything scary or anything like he knows, like he likes seeing, seeing butterflies too.
Speaker 4:I think you've taught him, yeah, how there's, you know, in their daily lives.
Speaker 6:There's little reminders and hints that bella's still with us he knows what I think reminds me of her and he'll he'll recognize that yeah and everything like the color pink, or a butterfly, or a kitten or a bunny, and he'll uh, he'll notice it. For me he's like mom, did you see? That that's you know.
Speaker 3:So then yeah, he is seeing it, then.
Speaker 6:So it is yeah, yeah yeah, I guess I think more along the lines of like yeah, you're going in a weird spot, like, I think, like no, he doesn't say I like.
Speaker 3:I saw her standing at the top of the stairs or something like that yeah not, I don't know why, he's still scared of the basement though, but he always has been.
Speaker 1:I saw the video that you posted of him in Bella's room in the swing and I think I just bawled my eyes out when I watched it. I was like, oh yeah, oh, it was yeah it was.
Speaker 6:He had, yeah, he had a few conversations. He, he knows that that's her favorite chair in her room and he, I always tell him you can talk to her anytime. You know, like now that he, he's, he's processed a lot and he understands, I can tell him, like okay, like yes, she's in heaven, she can hear you, you can talk to her, you can pray and you can say whatever you want, whatever feelings you want to get out, you say it anytime you want. And so I I hoped that I'd made him comfortable with doing that so that he can process in the way he needs to.
Speaker 4:He does a a really sweet thing now, not every night, but maybe once a week or so. He'll set up a little bed beside his bed for Bella, and so he'll put a pillow, a blanket there and her favorite stuffed animal. So I think that that's his little strategies.
Speaker 6:And it's a bed for Bella, even though her little stuffy is like in there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's's that's heartbreaking.
Speaker 3:All of that is a testament to you guys, though, and you know the fine young man that you're raising, and you know, honestly, the fine little lady that you brought into the world as well. And you know I've said it a million times, I'll say it a million more times, I'll say it a million more. You know. Thank you guys, both for sharing that journey and the. You know the trials and tribulations of all of it, because, while you're dealing with, you know the worst situation imaginable. You're sharing it and you're doing it in a positive light, and you know, even here tonight, sitting and answering, you know, just mundane questions about OK, now tell us how you felt about this. And you know, well, I mean, that's it.
Speaker 4:It's also how you think it felt.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I wish, I wish, yeah.
Speaker 3:And I, you know, but it's. But that's why you guys are so amazing, loved is because you do it and you, you know, I don't know and I didn't. I really I saw this podcast going a completely different direction. I don't know what I expected it to do tonight, but I certainly expected this to go, you know, a different direction. But then, just like always, I got drawn in and listening and so it's just, you guys have stopped trying to find direction and just to just go, yeah, just go.
Speaker 1:And I just want to say game show lined up for us.
Speaker 4:You have notes, like I do.
Speaker 3:Well, so I I tried notes with these two, kyla, it doesn't happen. You know, lyle falls into line. These two will not. The more I push, the harder they pull.
Speaker 2:If he brings notes in, we're going to be on one that night. Yeah, oh, denny brought his notepad. We're screwing some things up.
Speaker 1:Denny has a plan. No, he doesn't. Yeah, that isn't happening.
Speaker 3:So I'm hoping the Every joke has a little truth studio could move to canada and I will come up and share some space with you guys. And uh, yeah, I just want to say I love how lyle looks at kyla.
Speaker 1:You just look at her with so much love and it is so sweet. I just wanted to point that out hey, don't get too excited.
Speaker 3:She also said this once I like dicks.
Speaker 1:Oh, you can say that, but I can't say the f word, right? I just said something really sweet you you did, she had.
Speaker 2:He had to go and ruin it I did try and ruin it but I fully admit, well, well, I get divorced again, if we could?
Speaker 1:we would. Every time I'm around.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure almost daily they would get divorced again.
Speaker 3:We're much better friends than we were.
Speaker 1:We're struggling with the friendship right now, though, buddy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think I I'm gonna hold her, just waterboard her for a little bit and I'll feel better.
Speaker 6:That's my christmas gift to myself so yeah, I was gonna say, just going back to waylon, really really quick to like jump on a little bit of like a who. He really is little tangent. I found out what he wanted to be when he grows up today and no, you found out what he wanted to be.
Speaker 4:I found out why. A couple of weeks ago, he said he wanted to be a cop.
Speaker 6:He wanted to be a police officer and I'm just like why that's out of left field? I thought for sure it'd be like a F1 race car driver, like mechanic truck driver. No, I want to be a police officer. I'm like where did you get that from? It's like I don't know, mom, I just want to be a police officer. I was like I'm going to get to the bottom of this. So then today we're like driving home and I'm like listen, and we saw police officers.
Speaker 6:Cause they closed highway one out of our city, cause people are just like driving off the highway and landing in the ditches right now with our weather highway, that is like leaving the city and you have to leave the city to get to our acreage. So I was like, oh, look at the officers out there on the road. And I got to roll down my window because they were like you have to go left. And I'm like but I live right. I had to like pull right up to the officer on the road, like with her baton, like she's looking at me, like here comes another one that has something they need, yeah yeah, and I was like no, I was like I live on, I live that way.
Speaker 6:Can I please go right? She's like oh, yeah, you know the grits. I'm like, yeah, I know the grits. So then she lets me go. And then, well, I was so excited you saw a police officer and she said hi, and she waved at him. So I'm like remember, when you told me you wanted to be a police officer. He's like yeah, why? Because I want to. And I'm like no, but like, what do you like about them?
Speaker 4:you find that hard to believe, I guess you gotta have a reason. You're six like what's your I think it's six, that's the prime time to not have a reason yeah, well
Speaker 6:maybe that's like my teacher brain. I'm just like no, you gotta have it like what.
Speaker 1:You know why you just need to tell me yeah, yeah, yeah and he's like cause, well, cause.
Speaker 6:Then I get to put people in jail and I'm like ah, there it is and I was like no, but then it gets worse and then I'm like, oh, oh, so you want to put the bad guys in jail? Kind of like, yeah, good job, buddy. He's like no, so I can put my family in jail. Kind of like, yeah, good job, buddy. He's like no, so I can put my family in jail. And what? Why would you want to put me in jail if I didn't do anything wrong? Good answer.
Speaker 3:Good answer Waylon. Yeah, he's like too many questions, too many questions. I'm putting you in jail, I just want to eat my dinner and not have to answer questions about my day.
Speaker 4:The car ride home must just be an onslaught of questions why do you want to be a cop? Why do you want to be a cop Tell?
Speaker 1:me more, tell me more.
Speaker 3:I know, you're not telling me everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know what I do to my kids and you guys should maybe start to adopt this.
Speaker 2:It's up to you nobody needs to take advice, just for fun one time.
Speaker 3:Just for fun one time. You just need to look over and say, hey, you want to tell me why you did it? Or and there's absolutely nothing, but just watch them stew over. I didn't do anything. Well, listen, when you're ready to talk about it, just just let me know, and you will be stunned at what will come out of their mouth.
Speaker 6:Oh yeah I feel like waylon would have a laundry list just like a verbal diarrhea, but he's too honest.
Speaker 4:He'll just give it up. I don't know why braxton's that way.
Speaker 1:He's like well. Thanks for asking um yeah, you might.
Speaker 3:You might get more than you bargained for.
Speaker 4:Sorry, denny, my friend, my best friend. He's a vice principal at Wayland School and one time Wayland got in trouble and Wayland came home and he told me about it and then so I was talking to my friend and I said what happened with Wayland there and he said to me how do you know about that? I was going to let him off. I didn't think you need to learn. He just told me he's like why would he tell you I don't?
Speaker 1:know, I don't know.
Speaker 3:That's actually admirable, because I can tell you we just had to have that conversation with our 11-year-old son about six, six times in the past two weeks. If we hear about it from the school, it's worse than if you tell us. So just tell us. And then when I was a kid I know my mom's either listening now or will be listening later and I skipped school one time and left the note that I had made in my pocket and my mom and dad, instead of handling it in house, called the school and gave it to the school. So I got in trouble by them and at home on top of it. That's why I am the way I am. So we're running low on time. I promised you it was going to be a short podcast. Turns out it's not. Sorry, it never is. Never is so A. Tell us about all the socials we can find you on and tell us about your podcast. Just give us the elevator pitch. Tell us everything you can.
Speaker 6:Yay, okay, our podcast is Beyond Brave that you can find on all major platforms like Spotify and Apple Podcasts and you can watch on YouTube major platforms like spotify and apple podcast. And you can watch on youtube at kyla ct hashtag bella brave. My instagram socials are at kyla ct and tiktok.
Speaker 4:Facebook is bella brave and lyle's is lyle mt I just copied kyla's last two initials and then I was a while last two initials it worked for her it worked for her.
Speaker 3:And when, when I saw your instagram name um, that's where that one is right, while empty, yeah, I was like uh, he's following the formula, let's see how well that works.
Speaker 2:Well, it started with seven.
Speaker 3:Now it's up about 3,400 more than we have. I have not figured out social media yet. I'm going to get it.
Speaker 1:Kyla's going to help me with it. Kyla's going to help you with TikTok. Please, kyla, I try. We're going to have to reciprocate. I can't figure it out.
Speaker 6:Oh wait, I'm looking at TikTok. I just they don't. We're going to have to reciprocate. I can't figure it out. Oh wait, I'm looking at TikTok. I'm supposed to. I'm looking at how much Lyle's got here. Let's dive in. What are you at? Do you want a?
Speaker 3:drum roll or anything.
Speaker 4:She always plays on her phone when she's on podcasts and it's riveting.
Speaker 6:I'm not playing on my phone. I was getting to your page, what was it? All right Do you guys hold?
Speaker 3:on real quick while you're, before you release this information. Okay, there was a funny part in I think it was episode four, it might've been three where Kyla says hey, because you guys were in Canada, you guys were in the top 20 in podcasts pretty quickly, right, yeah? And so she starts a podcast with hey, we slipped a little bit. We were like number 38 and live on the podcast. Now I realize it was recorded. We could have taken it out, but why would we? This was too fun. Um, she says hey, lyle, could you take a quick look and see where we are on the charts? And what does Lyle say? Do you remember what you said?
Speaker 6:I don't have time to scroll. I don't think.
Speaker 3:I've got time to scroll that far down and I think when he said it he was kind of kidding. And Kyla gets her phone and she starts scrolling. And I'm over here in this studio watching and I'm like, oh yeah, this will just take a second and like I feel so bad because she just keeps scrolling and then and keep scrolling and keeps and she was like I wish I wouldn't have done this she went in so cocky, she deserved that, you know, oh no it'll be right there on the top, it's not, yeah, okay, back to your story now.
Speaker 3:How many does he have? 3835 hey, that's another applause coming. That is good. Well, so look, things are looking up for you guys, because now you get to be a part of the often imitated, never duplicated, horrible part of our show, where we go and we're supposed to save relationships, but we think we actually make them worse.
Speaker 2:I don't know how you segue from that to Ames and Jams. Yeah, are you guys ready for this experience?
Speaker 3:oh, I feel like we should. We actually make them worse. I don't know how you segue from that to AMS and Jams. Yeah, are you guys ready for this?
Speaker 1:experience.
Speaker 3:Oh, I feel like we should skip this.
Speaker 1:We probably should we're like faster.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so here's what we're going to do. It's a question. We get three people. We always take three questions where they'll email us for relationship advice with AMS and Jams. Except today it's going to be with Ams, jams, kyla and Lyle and Danny interjecting. And I'll interject because usually they give horrible advice, but here we go. That didn't work, let's try it again.
Speaker 2:It's the most wonderful time of this goddamn podcast.
Speaker 1:Did you really think this was going to be a feel good segment, are you?
Speaker 2:insane like me. Welcome to Relationship Advice with Ams and Jams. Well, you asked for our advice. We just hope you're ready for brutal honesty.
Speaker 3:And brutal it shall be, ams and jams. So when I'm happy or in a giddy mood, I tend to sing what I am saying. I think I know somebody else that does that I don't do that yes, you do. I tend to sing what I am saying. Pre-medication jams it's like a sarcastic kind of thing. For example, if my hair was messy, I would sing you're beautiful by James Blunt in a harmonized tone. I do it a lot, especially if I'm happy.
Speaker 1:Okay, I would do like my hair's messy, but I wouldn't like start singing like a song, a legitimate song, yeah.
Speaker 5:I would do like a weird I'll take like my hair is messy and I'm going to town and I don't care what you think, even though my hair is brown, it's missing.
Speaker 6:Yeah, yeah, yeah, my hair is messy.
Speaker 3:Like that's what I would do I think this is actually gonna work you pulled that right out of nowhere. Okay, I did not read this to Kyla before this episode she didn't get a chance to. Yeah, she didn't prepare for that at all. She was improv, might be her. Thing.
Speaker 6:Improv is my thing.
Speaker 3:That's right. So one thing you should know is that I have ADHD and anxiety and I've been well. I think this might answer some things. Um, I have ADHD and anxiety and I've been taking medication for the past few months and I have been feeling a lot happier.
Speaker 1:I was.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying. This sounds familiar. I was singing a lot last night and my boyfriend got really irritated. Oh, Lyle, this is where it gets problematic. My boyfriend got really irritated. He could have said can you stop? I'm irritated, but he doesn't. Instead, he lays into me and says it makes his skin crawl. I feel like he should love me for who I am, and this is something I do when I'm happy. Should he not be happy that I'm a lot happier than before my medication? I used to have full-on meltdowns a lot and cry a lot, and now I'm really stable. If you write it down, it must be true. We have been together 14 years and have a two and a half year old girl. We've been living together the past two years 14. 14 years and have a two and a half year old girl. We've been living together the past two years 14.
Speaker 5:14 years and have a two and a half year old girl.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we've been living together the past two years and he just informed me last night when I that when I do this it's like someone grading his skin off. I'm so offended. I feel like we've just lost our spark since living together and having a baby. What's even worse is he says he's embarrassed to show me affection. I always tell him my love language is reassurance and he just doesn't get it, even after all. This time are all couples like this after a baby. I don't know whether it's just fizzling out or if there's really nothing left. Until now, we've always tried to talk it out and promise to make more of an effort. Now he is attacking my character, saying he hates a certain thing I do. That makes me doubt everything. Now I feel embarrassed to act like that when I'm happy, because I know it's making him want to grate his skin off Ams and jams. Shouldn't I feel comfortable to be around my partner.
Speaker 1:The first problem is you've been together 17 years and he's still your boyfriend. 14 years and he's still your boyfriend. Second problem is you moved in two years ago and you had a kid and you know what so?
Speaker 2:you were together for 12 years without living with each other. I'm confused. Yeah, and did you just start singing Like?
Speaker 1:is this new or have you done it for the?
Speaker 2:past 14 years and he's just now decided to denoise him, leave him, no good.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I've always been singing and Lyle will still just be like, okay, that's enough. Dig in to me and be like you, make my skin grow and, like, make a point of making me feel bad.
Speaker 2:That's too far, that's too far and she's happy, she's finally feeling better. Just hand him a cheese grater, tear her down. I feel like that's all he's trying to do is oh, you feel good about yourself, so now I need to bring you down a notch.
Speaker 3:Or he's irritated and he just doesn't know how to handle it.
Speaker 2:No, I like my version better yeah.
Speaker 6:I say keep singing and give him a cheese grater. Yep, that's your thing, you bitch.
Speaker 1:I hope you enjoy grating your skin off he told me he probably needs to start with his feet.
Speaker 2:That'd be a good place to start.
Speaker 4:Maybe I would say I think I missed the point of this whole.
Speaker 3:That doesn't seem like we really want to give her advice yeah, this is now you're catching on this is more parody, I think people like I think these are things that people send them, but I don't think they really expect us to to help have. I really Amanda gets very. Amanda wants to drive people to their houses and fix it. Brayden, our son, who's not here tonight, usually if it's a woman, he wants to drive over and rescue her and make her his next wife. And I just saw him leave because it's not worth it yeah.
Speaker 3:Jams, everyone says divorce or leave. Make her his next wife and I just saw him on a leave because it's not worth it. Yeah, jams, everyone says divorce or leave. That's her answer to everyone, every single one just get out now she could give.
Speaker 4:Like, give him that one thing like okay, I'm gonna cut out the singing, because maybe she is just awful. Who knows, but me, if there's another thing like okay, and then this next thing is really irritating to him too, maybe then she helps.
Speaker 5:Maybe she's got a choice to make.
Speaker 4:Maybe you want me to give this up.
Speaker 3:Which do you want? It's got to be one of them, yeah. We didn't help this young lady. We didn't help her.
Speaker 1:I think Kyle and I were right in. Here's a cheese grater.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and the big middle finger. Dear Ems and Jams, hi, my husband and I have been married for 10 years. He is 31 and I am 29. We have three children, dogs, the whole thing. I like this line. He's a good person. We usually enjoy each other's company and hang out together and laugh, etc. Many times our disagreements stem from being stressed from both of us working bills, three small kids, not usually because one of us did something to cross the other.
Speaker 3:In the beginning of our relationship he cheated on me In parentheses he says he denies it, but for sure did with this girl. We were younger at that point, no kids and a bit off and on. I took him back and I swore to him and myself that if I ever found out he talked to her again I'd leave. Well, fast forward six years. Now that math doesn't quite work. Ten years short time. Six years, don't get it. Well, fast forward six years. And I see he has her added as a friend on Facebook. This has to be recent, like within the last few days I noticed, because he said he had to go and look at this dude's page a client of his and both their names start with the same letter. So I typed it and she popped up.
Speaker 3:We've been going through a rough patch. We're struggling financially and don't have much support with the kids. We're just both stressed and snappy. He is not a talker. I try to communicate and he shuts down Literally the silent treatment. And if he comes around I feel like I'm his mother lecturing him and he will usually just say OK, yeah, maybe nods his head in agreement. Long story short, recently I've tried to explain that I am too stressed at work full time and need the same amount of me time as he gets as he gets. He often hangs out with his friends after work or stays for a few beers and I have to call and ask him to come home, but instead of listening or trying to understand, it's just silence. Maybe a day or two of being nicer than usual and then back to the normal life like nothing happened.
Speaker 3:So now that I've been, now that I've seen he has check that, so now that I've seen he has this girl added as a friend on Facebook, I texted him to say what the actual fuck? Silence. He clearly doesn't take me seriously. I don't want to break up our family. Our kids adore him, but I can't live in silence and asking him again to block this girl makes me feel like a fool. For all I know, they've been messaging back and forth saying God knows what I feel like. The only way he'll take me seriously is if I keep my promise and end things. I will be heartbroken, and my kids will too, but this feels like a line crossed that can't be reversed. I wish he'd just get his shit together. Ams and jams. What do I do? Leave him there it is.
Speaker 2:Leave him. I mean, I feel like there's more more to this story, like there's got to be some general unhappiness for everything else that's going on and she's not. Everything's fine. We're just a little stressed. He doesn't want to talk to you, so I don't think things are fine and you feel like his mother.
Speaker 6:I think she should talk to her. Get the story.
Speaker 3:Talk to the girl.
Speaker 6:Talk to the girl. Do what you want. Talk to the girl If he's not going to talk don't talk to him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, find a different way, like that.
Speaker 2:See, if he's not going to talk, don't talk to him. Find a different way. I like that, see. That's why we needed another perspective. Yeah, because I wouldn't have talked to him.
Speaker 3:But, like I said, the math on that doesn't math. They were together. They've been together 10 years.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what like it. And she said they were on again, off again. So maybe, maybe she didn't start counting that until later. They were on again, off again, on again, off again. Okay, now we're counting from this point, which may be, I don't. It sounds, some of it sounds catty, some of it sounds not, I don't know. I feel like we need more information, it is my opinion Can't wait.
Speaker 3:It is my opinion that these people want this relationship to end. These people want this relationship to end. Whose people?
Speaker 1:These two people At least one of them does yeah that's my feeling. Yeah, probably they're just not that girl, it's the guy.
Speaker 2:If he's not, I mean men, if they aren't talking to you, it's because they don't want to.
Speaker 3:When I get mad, I don't talk.
Speaker 2:Boy don't I know it, and it makes me want to strangle you in your sleep. Oh, you should no.
Speaker 4:Danny, not talking, you would notice that. Oh yeah, that would be pretty bad.
Speaker 2:Things are exploding around him.
Speaker 3:He just sits there and pretends nothing is happening. Nope, I'm stoic, that's called no selling. I don't sell it.
Speaker 2:And it's going to get you strangled.
Speaker 1:I'd push you off a bridge.
Speaker 2:I don't have a bridge handy.
Speaker 3:All right, next question this is the last one. Now this one. I'm excited to get the room's opinion Lyle included. Here we go. Dear Ams and Jams, I need your opinion on grocery store etiquette and not letting someone cut the line. Oh, can't wait. Tonight after work I stopped by my local grocery store to grab a handful of items to make dinner Five items in total. I maneuvered my cart behind an older woman who was slowly navigating, putting her groceries on the belt to be checked out. She was the only person I noticed in front of me. A few minutes later, another woman tries to edge her way in line in front of my cart. I gave her a quizzical look and she said oh, I was here before, but I went to go see if the other line over there was moving faster.
Speaker 3:I said OK, but you weren't here when I arrived. So shrug is what he said. The woman proceeded to inform me she was here first and that she should be let back in because she only stepped away to see if the other line was faster. I replied that I did not see her before I joined the line, so she should get behind me or go back to the other line. At this point she showed me that she only had a few things and was shocked that I wasn't going to let her back in. She had four packs of Jell-O. I pointed out that I too only had a few things and wasn't going to move because I did not see her in the line in front of me when I joined.
Speaker 2:How long is this old lady taking that they can have this much time to argue about being in line?
Speaker 3:That's a great question. Now this is where I may be the jerk. At this point, we're both getting frustrated in the grocery store, pissing match for the pole position. I think that's hilarious. She says so you're not going to let me back in. Where's your Christmas spirit? I'd had enough of her entitlement at this point and I shot back. Don't pull that shit. Honestly, if I had been behind her in line, I would have happily held her place if she had asked, but she wasn't there when I arrived and she just assumed she should cut. She could cut back in after a few minutes. Using Christmas spirit as a means to get what she wanted was the last straw.
Speaker 2:Do you know what he should have said? My Christmas spirit is in that line over there.
Speaker 3:Go find it for me In the end she glared at me and said I hope you have a Merry Christmas, her voice dripping with sarcasm, and she left to go back over to the other cashier. The irony is we both left the store with our items at the same time. So, ams and Jams, am I the bad guy for not letting this woman cut in front of me and calling her out when she tried to use Christmas spirit to get her way?
Speaker 2:No, no, as I teach three and four year olds when you get out of line, you're no longer in line, so you have to go to the back of the line.
Speaker 1:That's how the line works. It's like oh well, I was right here, but I forgot to grab.
Speaker 2:How big is this grocery store that she was in line and then left and came back and you never saw her like before then.
Speaker 3:Yeah, is it possible that she was faking the whole?
Speaker 2:thing. I think she was faking and she just wanted to push her way in and I'm surprised it was Christmas. I thought it would be like where's your gentlemanly, whatever manners, or something like that.
Speaker 4:I thought that's where it was going to go, that she was trying to imply that a man should let him be in front of her, trying to imply that a man should let him be in front of her. Chivalry's dead.
Speaker 2:So it's Christmas spirit apparently.
Speaker 4:As to Canadians, I don't think the situation would ever come up. That's exactly what I was thinking Tail between our legs. I'm appalled.
Speaker 6:What is wrong with your American society? I don't know if it's saying sorry or pardon me or like it's alright if I scooch in here okay, scooch in go ahead.
Speaker 4:Sorry about that I shouldn't have been in the store.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry let me pay for your stuff is that really what it's like there? You just okay, Let people go.
Speaker 6:That's what happened in Canada right now is what we said. That's crazy. This is scary what you guys are talking about, my gosh.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that's I like it Isn't it crazy Once in a while.
Speaker 4:Waylon will budge in a line and I'm just like, yeah, alpha.
Speaker 3:And you're a stout guy, lyle, like, if you wanted to scooch in a line, I think you could do it.
Speaker 1:I guess okay my next question is do people actually try to do that around you guys like never, I've never seen no, that no our Canadian like why do you think they make fun of us for saying sorry all the time?
Speaker 6:we would never, but that's the least canadian thing we could do no, the, the, yeah.
Speaker 4:The least canadian thing would be to say hey, don't budge in front of me yeah, you'd be too scared.
Speaker 6:Oh yeah, you would just let be saying sorry yourself just putting the one that was butted in front of.
Speaker 3:It's totally my fault, it's actually your space.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's not the American way.
Speaker 3:Not at all.
Speaker 4:You guys are crazy. Why are you number one?
Speaker 1:I think I want to go to Canada, yeah.
Speaker 2:No, you don't. You'd be fighting everybody.
Speaker 1:No, because they wouldn't, I just Well, I don't.
Speaker 4:You'd be the you'd be the prime minister in a couple of months. Well, I guess she's in charge now.
Speaker 3:That's a bad idea. That's a bad idea. I got this bad idea, all right. So now we've come to the last part of the show. That's a bad idea. I got this bad idea, all right. So now we've come to the last part of the show. Lyle Kyla, I'm going to let you you, you need to think about one thing you love and one thing you hate. Okay, it could be anything. It could be society, it could be something about your family, it could be. You know that you, you hate that. I'm slow getting your podcast back to you. There could be any number of things that you could say. So here we go. I'm going to play the intro and we're going to start with jams, jams. Are you ready? All right, it's time to talk about one thing I love jams. Give us one thing you love, one thing you hate.
Speaker 1:I love having you guys on the podcast. I always enjoy having Kyle on the podcast, but you two are fantastic. Thank you guys, and I hate when I have a cold.
Speaker 3:So do I. Shut up, amanda, one thing you love, one thing you hate. Shut up, amanda, one thing you love, one thing you hate.
Speaker 2:I love the attempt at holiday spirit that comes around, the holiday times at schools and all of the dress up days and the ornament exchanges and the party things and all of the stuff that we're supposed to do, and I hate it at the same time because, let me tell you, I had to remember four kids dress up schedules and oh yeah and thanks for bringing strawberries, and I had to post a giant note on our fridge that said do not eat the strawberries because my kids would have devoured them before I could ever get them to the school.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:All of the things.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Audrey was pissed on present day. Just so you know what was present day, where you had to dress up like a present, oh, and I told him to help them.
Speaker 3:I hate that my husband doesn't help the kids with their present stuff. Lyle one thing you love and one thing you hate.
Speaker 4:I love Christmas. It's always been my number one. I love everything about it. It's so much fun, but I hate the Christmas concerts. I about it, it's so much fun, uh, but I hate the christmas concerts. I think they're. The songs are good, the skits are always a disaster. Just give me, like the standards you know, all the good ones, all the classics. Get rid of all those terrible skits.
Speaker 3:Yes totally agree. Thank you, somebody said it, kyla you're it.
Speaker 6:I'm like totally off. Random, random land over here. I love stand up comedy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 6:I hate small talk.
Speaker 4:Okay, podcast.
Speaker 6:You're really good at it, like how's the way?
Speaker 4:you've been doing.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Don't ask me yeah, ask me about my feelings about our grocery store line.
Speaker 3:Yeah no, thank you. No, thank you um kyla or lyle. First of all, thank you again for coming on the podcast and sharing your story Once again, it's been great. Tell us one more time where we can find the podcast.
Speaker 6:Beyond Brave on Spotify, all major streaming platforms Spotify, apple Podcasts and YouTube to watch.
Speaker 3:Lyle, could you, could you educate everybody on like sharing, subscribing and?
Speaker 4:when Kyla ran through that five minutes of instructions on how to do that, I loved it and I hated it. I loved it and I hated it. Hit five stars somewhere. I think in Spotify you have to hit the little three dots and then you can rate it.
Speaker 6:I'm going to do a poll. I was very nice because I wanted to help people that were like me. Where do I find?
Speaker 5:the bell, so I find the notification.
Speaker 6:What does it do?
Speaker 5:How do I rate?
Speaker 6:Because I don't. I've never rated a podcast and now I'm running one. Maybe I should teach people how to read.
Speaker 3:She says today we're going to talk about this. And she had. She had notes and Lyle just sat, like. At first Lyle was like are you really doing this? Is this really happening? And like it kept going. And then finally Lyle just gave up and sat back and was like, okay, I'll be right here when you're done we need close-ups of his expressions when I'm talking yeah they were great.
Speaker 2:I'll do an edit have like a separate wild cam that's just like up in his face that's right.
Speaker 4:Where is she going with this? Are we doing this right now?
Speaker 3:every time it's just a twitching well, guys, thank you again for thank you so much for sharing your time and this was a great time. So now our outro music is going to take us out. I'll tell you what I hate. Let me tell you what I love. I love my family around the holidays. I think that's fun. That's the only time.
Speaker 5:Wait a minute, y'all. Crazy bitch R-D-I-V-O-R-C-E, you gotta fight Aye, aye.
Speaker 3:While we're finally updating this part of the outro, find us at ThankGodCancerSavedOurDivorcecom. Where else can they find us, jamie?
Speaker 1:You can search on Facebook for Thank God, cancer Saved Our Divorce. You can find us on Twitter, instagram and TikTok. If you at TGC SOD, what's that stand for? Thank God, cancer Saved Our Divorce.
Speaker 3:TGC SOD Correct. That's weird, that actually kind of lines up it does.
Speaker 5:We'll take it, thanks.